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Shadow education secretary Rebecca Long-Bailey sacked

Discussion in 'Personal' started by nomad, Jun 25, 2020.

  1. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Starmer’s spokesperson said Long-Bailey had been ‘asked to step down’ after sharing an article that ‘contained an antisemitic conspiracy theory’

    Excellent news!


    Two things...
    1. Bloody good job too. The sooner the anti-Semites in the Labour Party are weeded out the better. We certainly don't need this in education, and certainly not from a politician related to education in any way!
    2. Well done Starmer! You've taken action on something that spineless Corbyn would never have done, let alone admitted was even happening.
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2020
  2. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    As a neutral I can say Starmer looks decisive and not a puppet on a string.
  3. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    He just needs to oppose the government now.
    DrLinus likes this.
  4. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Star commenter

    He's got about as much self cognition as a Thunderbird's puppet, Mr Meeja!
  5. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    Interesting article

    Interesting decision: not least in view of the details as quoted from RLB

    A case of KS "getting his retaliation in first" with a rival?

    "Anti-Zionism" is synonymous with anti-Semitism ?

    Certainly not.

    Some anti-semites use Anti-Zionism as a cloak?

    Agreed certainly


    "Anti-Zionism" is not anti-Semitism !
    Jonntyboy likes this.
  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Excellent and decisive by Starmer. Good for him and good for the future of the Labour Party.
  7. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Star commenter

    Yeah it is.
  8. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    This claim always seems to be made by antisemites.

    What is it about the idea of Jewish national self-determination you find so abhorrent? Because I don't you against Scots or Welsh nationalism...

    Something specific to the Jews maybe?
  9. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Interesting analysis in The Spectator...

    Is Israel to blame for the tragic killing of George Floyd by police in Minnesota this year? It’s not a question that has crossed many people’s minds as protests have swept across America in reaction to the unarmed man’s death.

    For certain sections of the left though, a connection with Israel can always be found. It certainly seems that way for the actress and full-on Corbynista Maxine Peake. Peake gave an interview with the Independent today, in which she claimed that:

    “Systemic racism is a global issue… The tactics used by the police in America, kneeling on George Floyd’s neck, that was learnt from seminars with Israeli secret services."

    The Indy itself appeared to endorse this, noting afterwards that:

    “Though a spokesperson for the Israeli police has denied this, a 2016 Amnesty International report said that hundreds of law enforcement officials had travelled to Israel for training."

    Peake’s somewhat bizarre claim originates in a Morning Star piece from 1 June this year, headlined ‘Minnesota cops “trained by Israeli forces in restraint techniques”’. Peake is a big fan of the communist publication, and has been a guest editor of the paper in the past.

    Unsurprisingly, there does not appear to be much evidence to back the headline up. The Morning Star piece seems to be solely based on a short article on Minnesota Public Radio, which noted that 100 officers attended a conference hosted by the Israeli consulate eight years ago.

    The conference was not about policing or restraint techniques though, but was instead focused on counter-terrorism. According to reports at the time, the conference only lasted for half a day and mainly looked at techniques to prevent terrorist acts, such as suicide bombings.

    Speakers on the day included ‘a police commander who is speaking from the point of view of the police chief,’ and ‘a bomb tech specialist… speaking about the techniques and the improvised explosive devices that were used by the terrorists.’ No mention was made at the time of Minnesota police learning restraint techniques. In other words, Peake’s view that ‘Israeli secret services’ were involved in George Floyd’s death appears to be a conspiracy theory.

    Meanwhile, the Amnesty ‘report’ cited by the Independent appears to be a blogpost which concerns American police officers travelling to Israel for training. No mention was made in the report of the Minnesota police force.

    None of this appeared to trouble Shadow Education Minister Rebecca Long-Bailey though, who glowingly re-tweeted the interview and remarked that ‘Maxine Peake is an absolute diamond.’
    Pomza, HistoryEducator, xmal and 2 others like this.
  10. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Oh Maxine! She was from up the road in Westhoughton near where I was born. I love her to bits, but she got one of those flats in Media City and lost her mind.
    It must have been the money because she was a proper northern working class woman and then she started acting weirdly. She was actually in favour of Corbyn. That's when I gave up on her.
  11. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    Think KS and RLB were in disagreement over Education. Maybe she wanted to be sacked. She’s a former solicitor and an experienced politician so every public move is orchestrated.
  12. minnie me

    minnie me Star commenter

    Used to live in the village near me
  13. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

  14. BigFrankEM

    BigFrankEM Established commenter

    A calculated ad hominem slur which deserves and so will receive no answer.
  15. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Give it a rest.

    No need for that.
  16. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I would have to agree.
    lizziescat, ajrowing and Scintillant like this.
  17. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Everyone in the country knows already knows this govt is failing.

    He isn't speaking up for anyone at a time of great trouble.

    Hardly heard him mention the NHS, teachers etc. Govt yesterday said there is to be no distancing in primary schools - not a peep from him.

    Hardly heard anything from him in fact. 15 mins every Weds and that's it.
  18. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    It throws the Boris - Cummings kerfuffle into sharp relief too.
  19. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    You give her too much credit on all three counts.
    Pomza, Kandahar and border_walker like this.
  20. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    He committed to tackling antisemitism and he's followed through with that.

    I feel a bit torn though. I'm wondering 1.whether the sacking is about more than this issue, and 2. whether this is going to prove to be a good move.

    I'm no fan of Long - Bailey and I approve of Starmer’s performance so far but think there may be stuff going on stretching beyond acting on this article.

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