Afterdark - You seem to be under the impression that I'm a student? I'm not, I'm an adult, maths tutor, writer of maths textbooks, involved in making BBC education content and parent to a 16-year-old. You must be proud to be the only person on this forum capable of rational responses based on though when the rest of us are just running around high on emotions... The emotional content of the post I assume you're referring to was that I could understand how the impact of the situation could be quite significant chemically on the students affected. That's what *feelings* are in the end - a chemical response... and most people (though admittedly not self-selected maths teachers) have a great deal of difficulty "mastering" them. You seem to be arguing, along with Mathsteach2, that mathematics is only suited to people who can operate like machines. That's a shame because it would be great to get more of the people who are capable of relating to others and can cross the divide into the non-maths camp to study maths for longer. To be honest I don't see the point in bothering with the TES forum any further - I'm involved in several professional communities and this is by far the least respectful of other people's contributions. That's not a toys-out-of-pram moment - it's a rational observation that actually there is very, very little constructive exploration here and a lot of smug, self-satisfied 'look how wrong you are!' posting. We can *all* play finding the holes in each others arguments - it's actually more challenging to draw out sensible consensus. Thank you to the helpful, constructive, interesting and respectful folk I've encountered on here - it's a shame the experience is so consistently ruined by a handful.