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Science?

Discussion in 'Primary' started by Northernsole, Aug 29, 2020.

  1. Northernsole

    Northernsole Occasional commenter

    Hi,

    I am not a primary teacher, but my daughter is in primary. How long should a year 4 pupil be spending in Science class per week? Could anyone send me a sample timetable please? Thanks
     
  2. Jeremyinspain

    Jeremyinspain Occasional commenter

    It will depend a lot on how the school teaches and possibly the age of your child. If the school does science as a distinct subject every week, then two hours would be a working average, some schools might do less with the youngest children.
    However, if your school uses a 'topic' approach, then it might be more difficult to pinpoint 'science' lessons - using this approach, some topics might be 'science heavy' while other topics might be emphasising humanities. So 'science' might not be visible every week of every term.
    If I were you, I'd ask your child's teacher for the answer, which will be miles more useful than anything you'll get here, as we can only give you generalities.
     
  3. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Some schools have a couple of afternoons, some have almost no time.
    Some have lots in year 3 and very little in year 4, lots in year 5 and very little in year 6.
    Some have lots one half term and very little the next.

    I wouldn't worry about it. At the moment, there are far more important things.
     
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  4. Northernsole

    Northernsole Occasional commenter

    Thanks for you replies, but I DO worry about it. Denying children appropriate STEM classes is setting them up to fail later in school and life.
     
  5. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    I really don't think not doing much science in year 4 is anything to worry about. Better not to do any science than be taught wrong science by a teacher who doesn't know much about it.
     
  6. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Ahhh but STEM is about far, far more than timetabled science lessons.
     
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  7. sooooexcited

    sooooexcited Established commenter

    It has to be the equivalent of 2 hours per week but this can be blocked and not taught at all in some half terms.

    Y4 STEM is more through maths and DT anyway and in my opinion to be honest, no-one who didn't do any STEM work in Y4 would be precluded from working in a STEM field later on in life of this ea s their interest.

    It's also worth remembering thst some schools may not teach any at all for at least the first term this year due to their need to focus on the recovery curriculum.

    OFSTED has said that by 2021, all subjects need to be taught again but not necessarily before then.
     
  8. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    The last time it was officially reviewed (as far as I know) was in the 1994 Dearing Review.

    In para 4.20 on page 33 of the report he recommends that the time spent teaching science is 54 hours per year in Key Stage 1 and increasing to 72 hours per year in Key Stage 2.
     
  9. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Lead commenter

    I am a science teacher. I basically assume that children arrive in year 7 without any prior knowledge of science, and take it from there.

    More children have to unlearn what they were told in primary than have learnt science well in primary.

    I have a photocopy of a pupils book which they brought with them from primary, full of errors, ticked right, facts written correctly, marked wrong and changed into something wrong. It made interesting reading.

    What sticks in my mind
    "There are no Newtons on the moon" " well done, you have understood this very well"

    And of course "if there are no unbalanced forces on an object it will stop moving"

    etc etc.

    This child is now a first class physics graduate from a Russel group university

    Best thing if you want to support your child's science education, lots of reading and writing with them, and support their literacy at this age, first and foremost.

    And enjoy a few science books and documentaries with them. And a few home engineering projects! But what ever you are doing, English and maths above everything. Including vocabulary, conversation and literacy
     
  10. drvs

    drvs Star commenter

    Rather dramatic.
     
    Last edited: Sep 1, 2020
  11. thejudgesscoresarein

    thejudgesscoresarein Established commenter

    Depends what the school has allocated for lesson time. With science, all depends on KS level but for KS2, I would expect at least 3 lessons a week, that’s what we did at my old school.
     
  12. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    Three lessons a week? Not a chance. Ours used to be an hour and a half. This year we're down to an hour. There just isn't the time in the timetable this year with the new arrangements.
     
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  13. dreamweaverplusactor

    dreamweaverplusactor New commenter

    I feel like you're here just to collect information to hit your child's teacher with. So I won't partake.
     
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