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Schools without staff rooms - thoughts?

Discussion in 'Secondary' started by br0wnsugar, May 4, 2019.

  1. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    I work at a school where 6 years ago we lost the staffroom due to the expansion of a 6th form and then 3 years later, lost the library for the same reason.
    Both spaces valuable for staff welfare and library - increase the power of learning/a love of reading.
    Is it important to have a staffroom away from the communal office space of individual departments?
    Not long ago, OFSTED visited and after they had finished the first day; staff were congregated in corridors, mixed subject specialists, catching up on the day. It was a sad sight but necessary for the staff. It got me thinking whether a staffroom is important?

    Thank you.
  2. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    Yup, I think it’s I’m important for the staff but second to having staff toilets (which we didn’t have in my last school) but there are ways round it.
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  3. br0wnsugar

    br0wnsugar Occasional commenter

    OMG - no toilets??? Goodness, that's worse. I will add though, the toilets we have to use are far from habitable as well. I feel for you.
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  4. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    Over the years, I've seen schools with staffrooms but no departmental space, and schools with departmental spaces and near-empty staffrooms because everyone is in the department spaces. In one school, the staff in one block used a particular classroom at break, rather than going over to the main staffroom - it was a room that wasn't any particular teacher's (used by part-timers/deputies), and there was a sink and kettle.
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  5. lizziescat

    lizziescat Star commenter

    You were allowed a sink AND a kettle! . No such things were allowed except in the small staff room on the other side of the building ( oh and in SLT offices)

    No hot drinks were allowed except in the aforementioned small, out-of-the-way staffroom in case children (secondary) got scalded (quite how this was possible given the very luke warm nature of any beverage carried from out-of-the-way staffroom).
    Not that it mattered because any break was taken up with accessing the non-staff toilets meant for the disabled, leaving no time for making coffee etc.
  6. rosievoice

    rosievoice Star commenter

    Well, it all makes sense. If teachers are not provided with a tap, sink, kettle or anywhere to have a drink there will be no need to supply them with a staff room or toilets. If no beverage passes your lips during the working day, one of your kidneys could then be considered superfluous and sold to provide vital resources for the school.

    Teachers, always going the extra mile for their pupils. :-(
  7. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

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  8. MissGeorgi

    MissGeorgi Occasional commenter

    The best schools I have worked in (some right at the top of national league tables) made the most use of staff rooms. There was an expectation that you would socialise at break times. It was like a student common room in some schools- in the morning, people sitting around and chatting, having breakfast together, etc. The best way to start the day. Pupil welfare could be discussed teacher to teacher, rather than emails pinging back and forth. A chance to socialise with adults, so that the trap of teachers trying to socialise with pupils never occurred.

    In the worst schools I have worked in, either no-one went to the staff rooms OR they had been replaced by classrooms. One school (awful, off the charts, atrocious or no leadership of any value) I never once set foot in the staff room.

    Why is this a co-incidence? Why is it such an indicator of school quality? It’s to do with workload and ethos, i think.
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  9. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    In the smallest secondary I worked in, we all used the same staffroom, and the staff were a strong team. In the largest, with 4/5 staffrooms, staff did not all know each other, and kids were able to exploit that - if they said they already had a detention with a different teacher, the chances of it being rumbled that they didn't were slim!
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