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School willing to employ me - no funding?

Discussion in 'Trainee and student teachers' started by jelleigh, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. I have approached a secondary school I have worked with in the past about completing the GTP there (History) and the head is keen to take me on IF a vacancy arises, which he expects will happen. However, I am finding it ridiculously hard to find a training provider, mainly because I will be teaching a non-priority subject and lots of providers only cover history as self-funded. Any advice? Would it be worth asking the head if he'd consider taking me on without funding - is this even an option in state-funded schools??
     
  2. I have approached a secondary school I have worked with in the past about completing the GTP there (History) and the head is keen to take me on IF a vacancy arises, which he expects will happen. However, I am finding it ridiculously hard to find a training provider, mainly because I will be teaching a non-priority subject and lots of providers only cover history as self-funded. Any advice? Would it be worth asking the head if he'd consider taking me on without funding - is this even an option in state-funded schools??
     
  3. I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the school employing you. Do you mean they are willing to pay you as an unqualified teacher - if so, that's what self-funding mean. It means the school will pay you the 15k or so rather than coming through the provider. You must be funded either through the school or provider, you can't do it without.
     
  4. Or did you mean that the school are willing to pay you, but need a training provider to pay for your training? That is what is happening to me! I have a job and salary, but they can't fund the training (which I think is about £6k) so until the training provider has their budgets sorted I don't know if I have a place!
     
  5. Dazzling is correct. Self funding isn't just covering the salary, it's also paying the training provider for the training. Many schools are funding non priority subjects in this way. Some trainees are funding it out of their own pocket.
     
  6. Sorry, yes this is what I meant! Because it's a non-priority subject it's a nightmare.
     
  7. See what happens to their budget then and tell them you'll fund it yourself. If cash is tight, work as an instructor for a year, save up then do it next year.
     
  8. I am in a similar position and asked if I could fund myself as I already have a position. Was told no as the issue was with the provider having someone on their books to work with me in my subject rather than the school providing everything!
    Hope you manage to sort your situation out!
     
  9. So if you have a school who are going to pay your salary, then a provider offer you a place but say it needs to be funded, and the school can't afford to... can you pay it yourself if you find the money?
    Keep hearing different answers on this [​IMG]
    I'm not posting my application to a provider off until tomorrow but would be good to know early!
     
  10. My understanding (and I could well be wrong - or it could be dependent on your area) is that to train in GTP you need the following.

    a school who are willing to employ you - they will either pay you a salary or ask for funding for a salary from a provider.
    a provider who has a place for you with their own staff to work with you - they will either pay your training fees or ask you to pay yourself (the school that is)
    so theoretically I suppose you could pick up the tab (about £6k I think) but you would need the school to support you with mentors and the training provider to have a mentor there in the subject you want to teach.
    I know with our school we have worked with the provider for the last 3 years so they are happy to work with us - my problem was I was going to train in citizenship which is not a priority subject.
    Does that make sense? I think every case is individual and every provider offers different things so I would have plan B, C and D in place!
    Best of luck
     
  11. Thanks for taking the time to write that! I have a school who are willing to pay my salary but not the training budget towards the provider ( whatever it's called but yeah about 6k) so yeah assuming the provider took me on I'd have them plus school mentor etc. Just wanted to know if you could pay the training fee.
    Yep have back up plans (pgce- though dont know if i have a place yet) this is my first choice of method I'd love to get it but have known from the beginning it's a long shot- even more so now as I think the only provider I'm eligible for has had it's places cut to just 1 for my subject! Oh well worth a try :)
     
  12. I do subject work for a GTP provider and we take a few self-funded places every year. We are quite a big provider so finding staff for minority subjects isn't often a problem, including in citizenship, but I can see how small providers would struggle to staff some subjects. Another issue that can affect whether or not a provider takes you on is if they think the school doesn't have the capacity to train. This might be due to no subject specialists in the department or because the school has been in an Ofsted category, which is usually a no-no for training.
     
  13. Good luck after today :)
     

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