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School pressures 'making pupils suicidal’

Discussion in 'Education news' started by David Getling, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    I was actually very close to a teacher who did in fact commit suicide because of what was going on in school. I had no idea she was so unhappy and it took me a long time to get over it.

    I can remember the meeting when the head told us she had died as if it was yesterday.
  2. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I was going to 'like' this post, but then realised that's hardly appropriate. What a terrible situation for all concerned.
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  3. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    It was a horrible day Frank, we found out about 8 am and then we all had to teach that day as well.

    Eventually we found out what was really going on and the part one person in particular had played to make her feel so unhappy. I never spoke to that person again.

    Such a waste - she was only 23 years old.
  4. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

  5. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    I thought they were saying that the IB cost more? I’ve taught A level and seen IB taught as well. The IB looked more interesting and broader with the chance to make wider connections and undertake more in depth study. I personally thought that the staff worked far harder topping and tailing all the IB admin that their A level counterparts, if anything. And having to deliver the IB AND A level in the same subject was exhausting for staff. But I felt that weaker students actually did better on the IB than the A level. They obviously enjoyed its ‘otherness’ and had great teachers!
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  6. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Interesting. Still stumped. I thought some of the English tasks we’re else’s rigorous, but other bits were really innovative. But my brain is hardwired to A level ‘three in depth’ thinking. We were never offered anything as exotic as IB. Isn't it hard and lots of extra admin to deliver IB and A level in the same subject?
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  7. Mrsmumbles

    Mrsmumbles Star commenter

    Liking seems the wrong icon, but.. yes. It’s an unreported national disgrace. And all the thousands who have been badly damaged by it..heart, skin, mental health damage. Not nice.
  8. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I too read the constant criticism of State school teachers and students by this poster and wonder why they aren't content to keep taking in the ££££'s spent on his tuition due to alledged poor classroom practice... which incidentally he seems to have avoided experiencing for some time. I do wonder if this is part of an advertising campaign to boost the desire for tuition or is it simply sour grapes that surface out of his inability to perform well in a State school classroom?

    If genuinely concerned about teaching and learning in the State sector surely one would want to get involved and attempt to improve the situation, rather than post negative comments here further disheartening those who attempt to do just that.
  9. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    I'm really lucky I never went through anything like this. That is just awful.
  10. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Yes, I'm sure it was. It only worked in that school due to the size of the Sixth Form. Some teachers taught only A level, others only IB. I think (it's a while ago that I was there) that only a few taught both.
  11. circuskevin

    circuskevin Occasional commenter

    Hi David,

    Feel free to ring for a chat anytime.

    Whenever you are in Birmingham you are welcome to drop by.

    If you are really lucky I may be able to introduce you to one of my 'unicycling hooligans'!

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  12. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    This is my favourite...
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  13. David Getling

    David Getling Senior commenter

    The first step in fixing anything is acknowledging that it is broken. But most parents and teachers resolutely bury their heads in the sand and refuse to accept that the UK education system is badly broken, with lazy, disruptive kids and a great many incompetent teachers. Of course, the latter deeply resent me pointing this out.
  14. ah3069

    ah3069 Occasional commenter

    Please point out this first hand evidence you refer to. Yet again, as you say, by not buying my head in the sand, you have never worked in a UK school, how can you make these bold statements. Putting text in bold does not make it more impactful. Maybe I am, as you refer to, one of the latter, but again, please point out your evidence for this Mr Getling.

    I look forward to your deeply meaningful, non controversial and obviously politically correct response.
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  15. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    If you are a teacher or parent then don't just point it out repetitively here go and do something to improve it... else your "efforts" are futile.
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  16. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    Funny that...
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  17. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Interestingly anyone who reads these boards will know that far from burying heads teachers are dealing with the challenges the education system has created every day... quite different to criticism by someone who appears to either have failed in that working environment or who has no experience of it while appearing resolutely disinclined to want participate in it in order to improve it. Walk in those shoes then let us know your views... or continue to sit back and point out perceived faults here and change little. *Yawn.
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  18. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    To be fair, this advice would be rather apt for more than one poster...
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  19. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    I dont really pay much attention to posters backgrounds on here so would assume most are or have been teachers, but for DG's self promotion I wouldn't know his background either.
    Pomza and ah3069 like this.
  20. Pomza

    Pomza Star commenter

    He obviously needs to develop his PR strategy...;)
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