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Discussion in 'Personal' started by nizebaby, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Is it still allowed?
  2. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    whoops. Sorry for the double post.
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  3. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    Not sure it works anymore, as we now live it!

    Malcolm Gladwell did an interesting podcast on whether satire is anything than just comedy:

    In the political turmoil of mid-1990s Britain, a brilliant young comic named Harry Enfield set out to satirize the ideology and politics of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. His parodies became famous. He wrote and performed a vicious sendup of the typical Thatcherite nouveau riche buffoon. People loved it. And what happened? Exactly the opposite of what Enfield hoped would happen. In an age dominated by political comedy, “The Satire Paradox” asks whether laughter and social protest are friends or foes.

  4. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Nanook, do you not remember farther back than the 90s?
  5. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    Yep - I remember as far back as The Frost Report, though I was probably too young too fully understand it. It certainly shaped my skepticism of those in power.

    Edited to correct ‘TW3’ for the ‘Frost Report’, I’m old, but not that old ;)
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  6. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Are there subjects that are now taboo? Should everything be fair game for satire?
  7. Nanook_rubs_it

    Nanook_rubs_it Star commenter

    For me, everything is ‘fair game’, as long as the attack is on a defensible portrayal of the subject being satirised. For me, Chris Morris is a good example of handling taboo subjects well.

    Others may disagree.
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  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    I think so, provided its genuine satire, rather than gratuitous comedy.
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    And you define this how? Would love to know...

    what is ''gratuitous comedy''?
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  10. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    I'd also like to know.
  11. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Whereas satire is humourous social commentary, intended to ridicule and shame governments, corporations and even nations, gratuitous comedy is social commentary that pokes fun at the differences in culture for cheap laughs. An example of this would be Curry and Chips, Bernard Manning and Jim Davidson.
  12. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    I was recently diagnosed with Forum Based Tourette's By Proxy, because every time somebody mentions "Satire" I immediately feel compelled to re-post this


    (full volume required)
  13. Photo51

    Photo51 Established commenter

    Is there any anti-social behaviour now that can't be excused by medicalising it?

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