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Salaries in Spain

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by viccazwilk, Mar 25, 2017.

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  1. docHolliday

    docHolliday New commenter

    Loving Spain and learning to live cheaply!
     
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  2. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Sweet jesus, you have no idea what living cheaply is. Compared to the UK, just about, but huge amounts of the rest of the world where you would be paid like a professional teacher, not a professional burger flipper, plus having a fantastic benefits package.... Spain is by far one of the worse places on earth for international teachers when it comes to cost of living expenses and salary.

    To be far @docHolliday that did genuinely make me laugh out loud
     
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  3. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    I'm not sure whether you were trying to exaggerate but a McDonalds server gets £1200 a month net. This is £1400 Euros. You'll be lucky if you can find that monthly salary 12 times a year in Spain
     
  4. dumbbells66

    dumbbells66 Lead commenter

    Isnt that close to a teacher in Spain? From what i've read over the last ten years it seems close. Not people who have been in Spain for 30 years though, just people new to the slaughter house
     
  5. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    Some colleagues of mine were teaching in Spain, but they left and came to Bulgaria because the salaries were so low.
     
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  6. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    That's what I said. 1400 euros a month is a lot for a teacher in Spain. There are lots and lots of 'international schools' paying less than that
     
  7. DocShew

    DocShew New commenter

    No, it is not a lot of money for a teacher in Spain and sounds lower than the Convenio.
     
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  8. DocShew

    DocShew New commenter

    Bit of a shame that you have to do this though, isn't it? I mean, I presume you studied for 4 years to get a degree and PGCE, and have some years of experience behind you. I 'learnt to live cheaply' when I took a gap year between my degree and PGCE to go travelling when I was in my twenties. That was decades ago when I did not have the responsibility of children and a mortgage, nor the worry of retiring without enough money to live on.

    In yesterday's TES, there were a lot of ads for schools Spain, with teachers needed asap. No wonder if they have to learn to live on a shoestring.
     
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  9. DocShew

    DocShew New commenter

    Teachers in Spanish state schools earn significantly more than most teachers in private British / international schools.
     
  10. kemevez

    kemevez Occasional commenter

    Yes. But so do teachers in British state schools. Lifestyle, benefits, savings, sanity and actually doing things that go beyond subsistence are all worth, at the very least, considering.
     
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  11. dippit

    dippit New commenter


    That's what I said. 1400 euros a month is a lot for a teacher in Spain. There are lots and lots of 'international schools' paying less than that
    No, it is not a lot of money for a teacher in Spain and sounds lower than the Convenio.


    Unfortunately, it's more or less according to the Convenio, which works out about 1,500 p/m.
    Of course, the Convenio is THE MINIMUM they can pay - and they are few and far between who deign to pay more than the Convenio.
    In my last school in Spain (still in Spain, by the way), they got around paying you what they should by not assigning you the correct number on your contract...and therefore your social security contributions (less pension for you in the long run!) - I was HoD, but never paid for it; I was KS4 coordinator, but not paid for it. These things should have worked out at about 2,000 p/a (gross) each, and that's being conservative!
    Current school (should say organisation) do pay according to the Convenio - and do so over 12 months - but boy, do they work you for it! It's like working in the UK for half the pay and double the hassle! They cherry-pick the parts that suit - we still have lesson observations and more paperwork than I've encountered, but pay lip-service to "wellbeing" (my only clue about my employers)!

    I agree with kemevez that lifestyle, etc, is a major factor, but having been here for 15 years...definitely looking to move to another country. Spain ain't the only place with a good lifestyle - and many other countries are less corrupt.
     
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  12. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    Hope you find somewhere nicer
     
  13. miketribe

    miketribe Established commenter

    Sign up with one of the big agencies.
     
  14. new13sue

    new13sue New commenter

    Mind you, I know what you mean about the UK. The Bigg Market on a Sat'day neet...[/QUOTE]

    Hey! Some of us love The Toon! ; )
    I was there last weekend. Beautiful new bars everywhere, friendly locals, clean air,(unlike London, my current hang-out) and historic architecture.
    Mind you, the inner London teaching experience offers good career development. Seems to me it's the only part of the UK where there's a few quid left in the budget! Plus, I'm liking the multi-cultural aspect of school life!
     
  15. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    You should get a knighthood. If it were a choice between teaching in inner-city London and being on fire I certainly wouldn’t be complaining about the cold
     
  16. Mainwaring

    Mainwaring Lead commenter

    Hey! Some of us love The Toon! ; )
    I was there last weekend. Beautiful new bars everywhere, friendly locals, clean air,(unlike London, my current hang-out) and historic architecture.
    Mind you, the inner London teaching experience offers good career development. Seems to me it's the only part of the UK where there's a few quid left in the budget! Plus, I'm liking the multi-cultural aspect of school life![/QUOTE]

    You can keep your new bars and your alcopops. The Bridge was my Friday neet watering place. Perfectly kept Theakstons and totally professional barmaids (not one under sixty) who pulled the pints the moment we appeared parched from Cathedral choir practice. And are you really suggesting that the toon ravaged by T Dan Smith has better architecture than London's? Howay man!
     
  17. penelopequero

    penelopequero New commenter

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    Hello,

    I am applying for a school in La Nucia, Alicante. I am really interested in the job as the school looks good. I have 7 years experience in teaching science in the UK. Could you please, give me any advice about the school and what salary should expect?

    Thank you
     
  18. JINTY67

    JINTY67 New commenter

    I have been working in Catalonia for over 2 years , International/ Catalan school . You will not get good salaries in Spain , unless in the big cities like Barcelona / Madrid, and accommodation prices will take a large chunk of your wages . Don’t expect anymore that 30\32000 euros, usual rate is 26000 plus .I negotiated my salary before I came as I have 15 years experience and was taking a leadership post . I have enjoyed it , lifestyle great , cycling , swimming etc and cheap to eat out .Not running a car, I use bike or school transport .Like anywhere it has is negatives and positives , you can DM if you want .

    Good luck !
     
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  19. kpjf

    kpjf Occasional commenter

    About 3 1/2 years ago I was offered 1,600 euros x 14 months a year (2 bonus months in July and December). This was just a local private school in a small town in the north of Spain and at the time I only had a couple of years' experience. I was very close to accepting. Not common then?
     
  20. tb9605

    tb9605 Established commenter

    I am sending you a pm.
     

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