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Sabbatical - can I keep me tlr?

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by SjamesM13, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. SjamesM13

    SjamesM13 New commenter

    I thought I’d jump in and ask - I’ve been reading around for a good while and never had the courage to actually post something.


    I was offered a once in a lifetime opportunity to play a sport abroad for 1 year in December. I became second in maths last September. I’m looking to go on a one year sabbatical, and will sort this all out officially when I get my visa in the next month.


    School have been very supportive and say they’re sure they can offer me the sabbatical and my job will be waiting for me on my return next year. But they have been a bit touch and go with my TLR. Is it possible to retain my TLR whilst I am on sabbatical? What do you think the outcome could be?


    Thanks in advance for any advice.
     
  2. SjamesM13

    SjamesM13 New commenter

  3. The-Gaffer

    The-Gaffer Occasional commenter

    You should retain it, many years ago I had to take a year off for a family commitment. I left in September returned the week before summer term ended (so I got paid over the 6 weeks) & kept my TLR
     
  4. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    The school will need someone to be a 2nd in maths next year while you are off.

    If they appoint someone from within to do it as an acting role, that person might well want to keep it or will want to move to a head of dept role the year after. If school don't want to lose them, they'll need to let them keep the 2nd in dept role. Both of you will have done the role for a year, but they will have moved things on in the dept while you've been off.

    Appointing an external candidate for one year to be a 2nd in maths will be extremely difficult.

    Hence the dilemma for the school.

    Is it possible you'll keep it? Yes.
    Is it certain? I doubt it.
     
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  5. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Possible? I suppose so. I don't think the school ought to make such a promise,.

    But someone will have to perform the role during your absence and what if they excel at it? It wouldn't be right to deprive them if they were better!

    They ought to tell you that it would depend on the circumstances at the time of your return.
     
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  6. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    If you take a sabbatical which is not provided for in your contract, then the school can set whatever terms it likes and it is up to you whether or not you agree to them. If the school can find somebody internally who is happy to do the job for a year and then step down, then I don't see a problem, but if they can't, they can hardly appoint somebody externally. I don't think somebody taking on a temporary TLR in these circumstances can complain about having to give it up, and it would be a big help in finding a second in Maths job elsewhere. Yes, the school might lose than a little earlier than might otherwise have been the case, but if they were good, they probably would find such a job fairly soon anyway. And, if you don't get the post back, they might expect you to leave. I once covered a senior position (Head of our specialism) for a year for a sabbatical, and it was no issue for me to step down again.

    But anyway, you are the one asking for a favour, and it is really up to the school to decide what they can offer.
     
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