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Running in China

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by englishdragon, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. englishdragon

    englishdragon Occasional commenter

    Well, the honeymoon is over, and englishdragon is curious about the sprinting teacher. Of course, there are very good schools in China with almost zero turnover, but this thread is not about those.

    We have heard of two cases of teachers doing a runner but perhaps there are some more.

    In Guiyang, a new teacher only lasted one week at the backwards ABIB school. That does not look very good, when the backwards ABIB lost the majority of international faculty in their first year (2018-2019), many teachers asking to be released from the second year of their contract.

    Somewhere close to Shanghai, a very experienced teacher left after a couple weeks. This was their experience:
    Lied to at interview. Was told international bilingual and that each kid from grade 6 up had a laptop byod. Guess what? Of the 1500 kids 25 were fluent in English. The teachers kids. And not one computer in sight. No computers allowed. 300 boarders. No computers. Also it is a chinese school not an international!!!!!!! Staff great. Kids great. Facilities out of this world but truth and organisation wise- a complete **** up!!!!!!! Staff so unhappy. I reckon now that I have gone many others will follow. I’ve got some interviews for jobs for next year which is good. So disappointed. I could have put up with everything if the kids could speak English. Hard to teach when nearly all of your classes can’t Speak a word!!!!!!!!

    Please share other experiences and outcomes.

    Here is a comprehensive guide to Chinese labor law:
  2. spanboy

    spanboy Occasional commenter

    When I first came to my school in BJ, a G9 Chinese student very politely put his hand up and asked me if he could go to the bathroom. What he actually said was: 'Teacher. Toilet!' And that was in G9! And we are supposed to be teaching the IB with all its buzz words, LP etc to students with this level of English at that age?? Btw, he wasn't new to bilingual schools, this was his 3rd year in them (having come from another bilingual school). He's now no longer with us. I think he went back to a Chinese school.
  3. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    When I saw the title of the thread I actually thought it was going to be a question about the practicalities of running in China...

    For what it's worth, these are my thoughts on that:
    • beware bike, e-bikes and the occasional car on the pavement
    • pay attention to the AQI
    • watch out for unmarked large holes
    • never step on drain covers etc. as they may flip
    • be prepared to be stared at, pointed at and shouted at - just wave back
    Above all, enjoy and keep putting one foot in front of the other...
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  4. the hippo

    the hippo Lead commenter Community helper

    I did not do much running in China, as hippos are fat and slow-moving creatures. However, I did walk to school each morning, a pleasant 20-minute stroll through the park in the centre of Shenzhen. The certainly were quite a few runners in Lianhuacun Park and the air pollution did not seem to put them off. Actually, the pollution levels were very variable and sometimes, yes, it was bad, but mercifully not that often.
  5. makhnovite

    makhnovite Established commenter

    Me too Second Place!! I was more fortunate than you though. We lived near the mighty Pearl River in GZ and there was a nice wide riverside walk, although pedestrians and all kinds of bikes could be a problem at week ends. There were also two parks very nearby with good footpaths. Summer months can be a bit hot and sweaty too. The locals are not very considerate.
  6. mrswallow

    mrswallow Occasional commenter

    This hippo might be slow moving, but as a species they are surprisingly swift (up to 30km/h if Wikipedia is to be believed..) It is also my understanding is that they prefer to think of themselves as 'big boned' rather than 'fat'. I have no advice on China either jogging or employment law. I just like to stick up for other big-boned runners....
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  7. pauljoecoe

    pauljoecoe New commenter

    Walking briskly in Hong Kong is a challenge let alone running.

    Maybe HK is different to a mainland China but I get the feeling that teachers stay a little longer around here.
  8. wrldtrvlr123

    wrldtrvlr123 Occasional commenter

    Two people walk (or run) down the sidewalk in Beijing. First one, "Oh, I just stepped in dog shiite." Second one, "Optimist".

    During our time in Beijing we didn't have/hear of many runners. There were a few that got escorted to the airport after some unsavory episodes were discovered by school, landlord, authorities.
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  9. SecondPlace

    SecondPlace Occasional commenter

    I will say that my school in China - in one of the secondary cities - got really good at supporting people as they joined the school. This was through being honest about the school, the city and China when recruiting and through an extensive support programme when people were in China.

    As a result we didn't have runners, but we did have people who left after a year as the school/city/country turned out not to be the right 'fit' for them.
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  10. englishdragon

    englishdragon Occasional commenter

    @SecondPlace ..........here is a contrast to your experience.

    "I started work at a very well known, high paying school in late August. I am 59 years old, have always wanted to work and live in China, thus was thrilled at this opportunity. I won't drag this on, but after a week of what was called "camp" for the new incoming first graders ( of which I was told were NOT at school and I covered a teacher who had not shown up), then another week at their new, desolate school in the mountains and am almost 2 hour drive out of Beijing, I was given NO NOTICE and all my classes switched from my elite, English learning students to the regular classes of 30+ non-English language students. I said nothing, but packed and left that weekend. I paid my airfare, visa, everything out of pocket to be reimbursed by the school, but all to be reimburse end of year. I am about $3000 USD down from this. THEY CLEARLY broke contract, but really- What was I supposed to do? I am not new to this- been teaching overseas for ten years. Again... What should I have done?"

    Posted last week on a WeChat group about expats and Chinese employment law. The age old switch and bait sales and marketing technique.

    What should we do as individuals to protect ourselves against situations like this? Is there anything we can do as teachers as a group or profession to change this?

    @february31st @rouxx @rideemcowboy @snitzelvonkrumm @tianjinjustice
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  11. february31st

    february31st Established commenter

    The only 2 things to do in this situation is to post the details on the *** and start a case with the Foreign Labour Bureau. The first will warn other prospective teachers and the second would be to obtain your release documents to enable you to obtain another job in China.

    The Arbitration may award you some compensation but it will probably be taken to a courtroom to try and avoid paying.

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