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Rules for Trans Threads

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Koshkat, Sep 15, 2019.

  1. Koshkat

    Koshkat New commenter

    Anyone else find it a bit weird that there are special rules for discussing trans issues on here? Is any other group given such special treatment?
  2. moonpenny

    moonpenny Occasional commenter

    Oh dear.....

    If a thread was overtly racist , sexist or homophobic, I think the moderators would respond similarly.

    Being trans is one of the last taboos and some people seem to think it’s ok to be openly transphobic.

    I’m not sure why some people feel it is ok to try and dictate and judge how others chose to live their lives, it has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else.
    Orkrider2, bombaysapphire and bonxie like this.
  3. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Whilst I basically agree with this, I think there are legitimate grounds for concern with some 'Trans Rights Issues', as this article (yes, I realise it's the DM) suggests:

    Girls' rights are IGNORED so that transgender pupils are free to use whichever school changing room or toilet they want, equality watchdog report suggests

  4. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Completely misses the OPs actual question.
    Why are we explicitly asked to treat trans matters with extra care in one of the sticky posts on the forum, and yet no other group of specific interest has featured in any other similar posts.
    It's a good question.
    Cannot answer it.
    Bugs me.

    (Anybody care to completely misinterpret what bugs me here?)
    Laphroig and alex_teccy like this.
  5. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Established commenter

    What I find weird is that despite these rules supposedly being in place for more than a year transphobic posting continues unabated and you're more likely to be warned for pointing it out than if you're the one posting it in the first place.
    blue451 likes this.
  6. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    It has got quite a lot to do with the women and girls whose sex based rights are being eroded.
    Trans rights are human rights.
  7. vannie

    vannie Star commenter

    Really? Where?
    harsh-but-fair likes this.
  8. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter


    I didn't know there were special rules. What are they? Where do I find them, please?
    needabreak likes this.
  9. marlin

    marlin Star commenter

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  10. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    I thought that in the fairly recent past there had been some very acrimonious discussions on the subject, with the thread being shared on other SM platforms, causing problems on here. That doesn't seem to happen with other contested issues. But I may be wrong.
  11. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    It's a form of 'brigading'. I've seen it done on Reddit...

    Twitter mobs are another example.
  12. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    ". With this in mind, topics concerning transgender rights will only be discussed in certain on-topic forums about relevant education-based issues where members can constructively discuss best practice."

    Discussions about transgenders issues ( social, sporting and womens rights etc) are not permitted under any circumstances on this forum.
  13. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    All the moderation on here is reactive, based on people complaining. Someone with a special interest (sigh) will have made a representation to the moderators quoting legalese for transgressions.
    Mangleworzle and vannie like this.
  14. circuskevin

    circuskevin Established commenter

    ... and there was me thinking 'cis' and 'trans' was all about spatial orientation of molecules ... :)

    blazer likes this.
  15. Flowersinspring

    Flowersinspring Lead commenter

    I thought the thread was about tans.

    needabreak and (deleted member) like this.
  16. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    I thought it was
    Rules for Trains Threads
    needabreak likes this.
  17. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    So are there rules for trans-gressions?
    needabreak likes this.
  18. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Thank you, @marlin !
    Exactly what I needed to know and had passed me by.
    marlin likes this.
  19. moonpenny

    moonpenny Occasional commenter

    I’m sure Rosa Parks should have just sucked it up and got off that bus
    blue451 and Andy_91 like this.
  20. lucyrose50

    lucyrose50 Occasional commenter

    The House Rules for the forum say "Users will not personally attack fellow members of the community, including authors and staff. Offensive, lewd or threatening language will not be tolerated; neither will attacking users based on their race, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation, disability or age."

    This would include transgender people, but as another commenter said, it seems that while the majority of people understand that it's not acceptable to say negative things related to someone's race, religion, disability, age or sexual orientation, many people still think it's funny to make jokes about transgender people or to debate whether or not it's OK for someone to be transgender or whether transgender people should be allowed to use certain facilities or go to certain places. Replace "transgender" with "gay people" or "people of colour" in these jokes and debates, and see if it still sounds acceptable, or if it sounds like we've gone back a few decades to when many people thought it was perfectly acceptable to make jokes about gay people or people of different races, and people were excluded from using certain facilities or services based on the colour of their skin. I'd assume that there have been enough issues on the forums with people making negative comments about transgender people that the moderators felt there was a need to specifically mention this group in a reminder about the house rules.

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