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Rugby too dangerous I

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Flere-Imsaho, Mar 2, 2016.

  1. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Or just go back to the rugby played before it all went pro. Nowadays it is all crash ball and 3 guys tackling the runner. These days a centre runs into more tackles in one game that they would have done in a whole season previously!
  2. xena-warrior

    xena-warrior Star commenter

    Children need to be taught how to tackle properly, and those who infringe safe practice must be excluded.
    I speak as the friend of a woman who lost her teenage son in a neck-breaking accident in a proper, well-regarded youth team; but even so, you can't feather-bed every child because a tiny minority come a cropper. And by cropper I don't mean just break the odd bone.
  3. cissy3

    cissy3 Star commenter

    That would be my son.(bit in bold) Not particularly keen on PE, but an asset to the school Rugby team.

    (Well all you have to do is touch them, Mum, and they fall over)
  4. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    I despair that pupils will not have the opportunity to play a proper game of rugby at school. What a shame.
  5. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Why would you want to risk inflicting early onset dementia of anyone?
  6. xena-warrior

    xena-warrior Star commenter

    What else do you propose banning? Have you stopped smoking?
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  7. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    What I have lost through playing rugby is far exceeded by that which I have gained.
    Even if lots of bits of me ache on cold damp mornings
    racroesus likes this.
  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Are you able to summarise what you believe you gained? Would you feel the same if a game had left you paralysed?
  9. dumpty

    dumpty Star commenter

    I found no other sport than rugby can help badly behaved kids (boys) fall into line. They love the chance to pit their strength against each other but also know the rules are strict and they are out if they play nasty. It can be quite a life forming experience.

    I think boys especially need and want to do this, it is part of the macho (or finding out you are not macho) process. Ban it, as I also thought we had in soft,cotton wool state schools, and the kids just find other outlets for the game or their aggression - often to the cost of innocents.
  10. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Levels of determination, teamwork, discipline, fellowship and physical improvements top the list but there's far more to it than that.

    I don't know.
    I know that a one-time team-mate never regretted playing even though it cost him the use of his legs. He even coaches wheelchair rugby.
    I'm not sure I am that strong because I've never been tested that way.
  11. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    When did horse racing, boxing, wrestling start being taught at schools? Hardly the same thing. Even the gymnastics we did in PE didn't involve tumbles or backflips so the risk of being injured was significantly lower.

    If rugby has a high incidence of injury, then surely it's an indication that perhaps a general PE lesson isn't the right place for that kind of contact sport (just like it isn't the place for boxing or horse racing). It won't stop kids from playing in extracurricular clubs or teams, where perhaps more specialised instruction (and the conscious decision that you want to take part) will help prevent injuries.
  12. Geoff Thomas

    Geoff Thomas Star commenter

    As far as I understand it, the report is about rugby in schools, not about rugby per se.

    It could be, and I have no evidence one way or the other, that, while clubs spend hours and hours and hours developing skills in the young players over multiple seasons, schools just do not in general have the staff to do this.

    I know from my own Sunday mornings how the under-8 tag players progress to first full contact at under 9, with very strict laws about how tackles are made, through a series of levels over successive years which lead to the adult game.
  13. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    This made me smile...but maybe it's a foretaste of things to come?

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  14. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    Back in my playing days the club I played for had several fixtures each season against prison sides (away fixtures only)! The games were fun. It was noticeable how we could beat the teams easily early in the season but if we played them again towards the end of the season the game would be far more competitive as the lags had learned how to play. I think they gained a lot out of the experience on several levels. Far more than say if it had been soccer where most of them would already know how to play before getting sent down.
  15. blazer

    blazer Star commenter

    In my school the PE dept. is responsible for about 80% of all first aid events. The trampoline being the biggest contributor. Surely trampolining should be banned before rugby?
  16. Cracked_up

    Cracked_up New commenter

    Are you able to summarise what you believe you gained? Would you feel the same if a game had left you paralysed?

    I assume that you don't take the risk of driving on roads - the likelihood of you being
    paralysed or suffering dementia (brain damage) from an accident far higher than that from playing rugby. Perhaps you cycle instead. Watch out for turning lorries.
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  17. Geoff Thomas

    Geoff Thomas Star commenter

    Did anybody else misread that first time?

    I thought they were putting on demonstrations for St John's.
    cissy3 likes this.
  18. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Lots of pupils get hurt at break/lunch time - perhaps we should ban that free time as well?
  19. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I suppose the smoking analogy is a good one. We ban it in certain areas and for people of a certain age.

    So I think I'd advocate a modified version of the game for U16s.

    Is there any really effective (not foolproof) headgear? Mind you, that gives people a false sense of security.

    Er, 1 on 1 tackles only?

    At least ensure that teachers sideline the kids if there's a sniff of a collision.

    It's nuts to have 'head letters' home for falling over and maybe getting a tiny graze but encouraging strapping adolescents to launch their heads into other titans.
  20. Didactylos4

    Didactylos4 Star commenter

    Other options have been suggested

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