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Ros Wilson or Pie Corbett or both?

Discussion in 'Primary' started by thehawk, Jun 20, 2011.

  1. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

    without any training, inset, attendance of any course etc, I always had a belief that the two above mentioned were relatively opposing views of improving writing. Ros Wilson might simplistically be described as "mechanical" - teaching all the different sentence types, writing styles in a "menu" format. A sort of do A, do B and then C and voila! Great writing! (but in a fun way).
    Pie Corbett was more of an "inspire them with whole texts, quality writing and rich language" the great writer will emerge and then focus on the mechanics after.

    I know this is simplistic, but is that about right?

    Correct me if I am wrong, please!
    I was always a Pie Corbett-follower, but I am being asked to introduce a more Ros Wilson approach, which I am uncomfortable with - mainly because I know nothing about it. We don't subscribe to Andrell, so I am trying to glean what I can from free stuff, rumour and heresay.

    How do you all try to improve writing in your school?
     
  2. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

    without any training, inset, attendance of any course etc, I always had a belief that the two above mentioned were relatively opposing views of improving writing. Ros Wilson might simplistically be described as "mechanical" - teaching all the different sentence types, writing styles in a "menu" format. A sort of do A, do B and then C and voila! Great writing! (but in a fun way).
    Pie Corbett was more of an "inspire them with whole texts, quality writing and rich language" the great writer will emerge and then focus on the mechanics after.

    I know this is simplistic, but is that about right?

    Correct me if I am wrong, please!
    I was always a Pie Corbett-follower, but I am being asked to introduce a more Ros Wilson approach, which I am uncomfortable with - mainly because I know nothing about it. We don't subscribe to Andrell, so I am trying to glean what I can from free stuff, rumour and heresay.

    How do you all try to improve writing in your school?
     
  3. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Not quite Ros Wilson also believes children need to experience rich language, whole texta and quality writing - good readers make great writers and Pie Corbett has his own formula -
    IMITATION - familiarisation.
    • Getting to know the model story through - storytelling or
    rereading.
    • Hear it, say it, read it, explore it.
    • Spelling, sentence and paragraph work.
    INNOVATION - re-using a well-known text.
    • Substitution; addition; alteration; change of viewpoint; reusing the
    basic story pattern.
    • Talk and drawing before writing.
    • Spelling, sentence and paragraph work.
    INVENTION - making up a text.
    • Building up a story - drawing, drama, images, video, first-hand
    experience, location, quality reading, etc.
    • Talk and drawing before writing.
    • Spelling sentence and paragraph work.
    • Putting the tool kit into writing.
    the two approaches are compatable even complimentary
     
  4. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

    Excellent - that is really useful.
    Are the "formulas" different?
     
  5. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    Again there are some similarities and some differences
    "The difference between a Level 3 and a Level 4 writer is the ability to construct and vary sentences."
    who said it
    Ros Wilson or Pie Corbett?

     
  6. thehawk

    thehawk Occasional commenter

    Ha Ha! Ros Wilson?
     
  7. Pie Corbett - think of how you can retell all those fairy tales.
     
  8. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

  9. This is Pie Corbett discussing characterisation for improving writing http://www.youtube.com/user/NTprimary#p/a/u/1/R9h0H0c1XDk

     

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