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Rise of French National Front

Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by Marco82, Dec 14, 2015.

  1. Marco82

    Marco82 Established commenter

    The BBC like most other mainstream media outlets is rubbing its hands a the fact that the FN filed to win a single seat in the second round of the French regional elections. The FN has been crushed, rejected, apparently. Yet le Pen got 28% of the vote and was "crushed" in part because supporters of the two main parties voted tactically to keep her out. I know historical analogies are often misleading, but in September 1930 the NSDAP gained 18% of the vote and all the experts concluded that it was finished as a force. Less than a year later it got 37% . Even after 1933 the Communists declared that "Herr Hitler has had his best day" and predicted the demise of his party. I am not saying the FN and the NSDAP are identical and the whole situation is different. But with French unemployment at 10% officially and with massive youth unemployment it is no surprise that people are looking for an alternative. In fact, if you look across Europe nearly all "respectable" parties, left and right alike, are wedded to austerity and are unable to offer a way out of the crisis. Germany has exploited a weak Euro and has managed to export its unemployment with the result that Spain, Italy, Fracen, not to mention Greece, are economic basket cases. It will be interesting to see who comes to power in France in the next Presidential elections.
  2. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    I believe what happened is fairly common in French elections.

    I don't think what happened can be compared to 1930s Germany. The Weimar Republic was weak, there was resentment by the right about being sold out by Versailles, there was the stock market crash of 1929, people were starving, people were afraid of communism, etc - perhaps a History teacher could provide more detail?
  3. Geoff Thomas

    Geoff Thomas Star commenter

    Just have a look back to the 2002 presidential election.

    Chirac (RPR) came top in the first round with 19.9%. Le Pen (FN) was second with 16.9%

    Come the run-off between the top two and Chirac gained the largest ever majority 82.2% - 17.8%

    The same would happen again.
  4. Marco82

    Marco82 Established commenter

    Maybe, but France is in a much worse economic state than it was then. I hope you are right though. But what do you think about the other point, about how even so called left parties throughout Europe are wedded to austerity? The Various socialist parties are becoming increasingly irrelevant as they have no alternative to neo con economic orthodoxy. I was very keen on Corbyn and voted for him, but I have to say I am disappointed that he has offered no fundamental critique of austerity, that's why Labour is hamstrung, especially in Scotland. Quite a depressing picture.
  5. Geoff Thomas

    Geoff Thomas Star commenter

  6. Marco82

    Marco82 Established commenter

    Geoff, thanks for this information, really interesting stuff. Bet it will be a success in Finland as they seem to be up for radical ideas and don't look to America for inspiration. Am I not right in thinking that the CfE was inspired by Finish education policy? That means, though, that if we got the Basic Income here it would be a complete **** up. But I think that something like this will eventually come here for the current system is creaking at the seams. Look at yesterday's budget which shows we are in a dead end here in Scotland.
  7. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Labour is hamstrung - aka deid - in Scotland because of what they did during the referendum campaign and not because of austerity.
  8. Geoff Thomas

    Geoff Thomas Star commenter

    It's no good modelling anything on the Finnish model if it is not properly resourced.

    Good education costs a lot of money. Lack of it costs more, but it will be somebody else's problem.

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