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Returning to normal.

Discussion in 'Personal' started by nomad, Aug 8, 2020.

  1. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    I like equally what great posters like @nomad ans @peakster have said.

    Im not ever sure what normal means anyway. What is normal?! But if we accost it to mean what we sort of had pre Covid I think we are entities to keep hope and treasure those moments we consider to be normal.

    but we are not back to normal and I think a lot of people think we are. Even in the classroom won’t be normal given the conditions we will have to work in.

    so to me, @nomad and @peakster are hitting the right notes as they usually do. What is normal is their politensss and respect for others unlike our rude nasty right wing element that seem to have infiltrated this forum and yes led to many decent posters just moving away.
    nomad, agathamorse and jellycowfish like this.
  2. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    While that sort of behaviour sounds very worrying, I think the majority are probably observing local lockdown rules. The daily infection rate has started to go down, after rising for the last month: the 7-day average was 833 on Thursday, 832 on Friday and 830 yesterday. Tiny steps, I know, but in the right direction. Mortality rates and hospital admission rates have been on a long decline for six weeks or more now. No reason for complacency, of course.
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  3. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Just dawned on me that my OP has links with the Policeman's Song from Pirates of Penzance...

    When the enterprising burglar's not a-burgling
    When the cutthroat isn't occupied in crime
    He loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling
    And listen to the merry village chime

    I'd just like to reassure Tessers that I am neither a burglar nor a cutthroat.
  4. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Tell that to the Judge.
  5. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

  6. lilachardy

    lilachardy Star commenter

    I think I beg to differ.
    This is now normal.

    It's going to be this way for the next 5 years or so.
  7. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    I lived across a field from a church for 4 years the church clock chimed hourly, and on the quarter hour. I really missed it when we moved, especially for not being able to just look out of the window to know what time it was.
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  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Our village clock strikes hourly, right through the night as well as the day - but not on the hour. It has been 8 minutes fast for years. :(
    nomad likes this.
  9. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Sadly, yesterday's rose to 876, slightly higher than Germany. Nowhere near as bad as France or Spain, thankfully, but no longer moving in the right direction. Everywhere in western Europe seems to be reporting that new infections are mainly among the young, so at least the mortality rate remains low.
  10. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    I received an e-mail the other day saying the volunteer group I work with in a country park is reconvening soon, but the tone of the e-mail was a bit vague. The maximum group size on any day will be 30 people. I queried the sender about what measures would be taken to ensure safety with shared items, enclosed spaces (ie tool stores, communal eating area), how working practices would be adapted to ensure proper distancing, and how 30 people squares with the maximum of 6 households meeting outdoors guideline. His response was that as far as he knows, other volunteer groups appear to be using 'common sense'. I pointed out that English Heritage have very well-defined guidelines for staff and volunteers to ensure social distancing and minimum use of enclosed spaces. His response? He's sceptical about the whole pandemic thing, and doesn't agree with lockdown, school closures, or wearing masks. Basically someone's pushing a denial agenda and they're going to try meeting up and muddling through. That most of them are in the 65+ age range doesn't appear to be of concern.

    No thanks mate, as much as I'd like to work outdoors again I think I'll pass on this one. If anything is going to delay a return to 'normal' it's a complete failure of imagination about the need to adapt how we live and work. I'm now convinced it's not about intelligence, I think it's about a lack of mental agility. As an ICT specialist I encountered it many times in my teaching career among qualified and intelligent professionals - it's not about brain cells, it's about a basic willingness to recognise what's going on around you and to adapt accordingly.

  11. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    Where I live, the pandemic is being referred to in the past tense. People go about their usual summer business, mostly not wearing any masks and flocking to picnics in parks where they thoughtfully leave their rubbish behind to boost the work of the park keepers. I think that the drop in figures is due to the fact that the weak have been whittled out, there are fewer left to die. @Florian gassman is right. Complacency will be our undoing.
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  12. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    The downside is that these are the people who will be in schools shortly. There is also the very real problem of long-term health damage that people are suffering from.

    We are nowhere near "normal" and are tempting fate...
  13. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    I was a victim who suffered for outing them.
  14. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    I began to feel really normal when I retired and was no longer in front of a full class!
  15. Doitforfree

    Doitforfree Star commenter

    I went to a big Tesco today for a change. Everyone was in a mask but social distancing seemed to have been largely abandoned. And although the shop was quiet of shoppers, there were loads of staff picking online orders, none wearing masks and none making any effort to keep apart from each or other shoppers at all. And they didn't have the two things I specifically wanted from Tesco. Blooming anxiety making waste of time! I'll stick with Morrisons in future. It's an all round better experience. I don't like the new normal. I liked the old one where everything wasn't so weird and stressy.
  16. ACOYEAR8

    ACOYEAR8 Star commenter

    Students have traditionally looked to teachers and teaching staff for answers and whatever else they might think about school, they gravitate towards its guidance. The new ' normal' will be a world where high level safety measures are in place in school , siblings separated from each other in bubbles, white lines and hand gel in abundance compared to packed school buses, non mask wearing shoppers and pub goers all of which appear to counter the school's policy.
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  17. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Good post
  18. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    Hope you are doing well Belle!
  19. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    I cycled into the centre of town this morning and into a shopping arcade I was last in a few months ago. I got 400 yards from the front door and realized I didn't have my mask so had to return and get one.

    Although most shops were open it wasvery quiet in town - one thing I noticed was the total lack of tourists - normally town would be full of tour groups from various countries in August. There was a one way system in place in the shopping arcade - some stores have closed and there were so few people about.

    The one store that was relatively busy was poundland. I bought a few things I may (or may not) need for school and then wandered across the park, picked up my bike and came home.

    Most people wearing masks I was glad to see.
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  20. red_observer

    red_observer Star commenter

    What I don’t get it why people wear masks in the open air. If they want to fine but It not been proved to be airborne yet?

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