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Discussion in 'Scotland - education news' started by inthered, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. inthered

    inthered Occasional commenter

    Anyone know about the restructuring excercise going on in N Lanark and Glasgow today? All FacHeads called in this morning...
  2. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    No, and how do you know it's a restructuring exercise?
  3. inthered

    inthered Occasional commenter

    I don’t; but FacHeads were dragged in today to HTs and told savings had to be made, one possibility being bigger and fewer Faculties. ASNAs also told they might be in the firing line. Just wondering if someone else had actual facts.
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  4. GuessWho

    GuessWho Occasional commenter

    According to sources in my school in NLC....
    School management posts have to be "streamlined" - ie fewer PTs and as a result an increase in FHs.
    ASNAs to be pooled between schools rather than being allocated to a particular school.
  5. MilkyBar Kid

    MilkyBar Kid Occasional commenter

    The biggest drain on LA education budgets are salaries, especially teachers so it's no surprise that middle management are in the firing line, although letting a few PTs out the door early is not going to make much of a difference in balancing budgets whilst preserving teacher numbers. At the end of the day we can't afford the education service the public and politicians expect (pretty much the same as with all public services these days) but no-one is willing to ask the hard questions. I suspect after the Holyrood elections next year our salaries will be frozen again, with union approval if accompanied by a reduction to the 190 teaching days.
  6. inthered

    inthered Occasional commenter

    Ironic this came out on the same day as the headline about kids doing worse at Higher. Mind you, that could be down to the messing about by SQA last year in the wake of the removal of unit assessments. Certainly they made some subjects harder to pass.
  7. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    Restructuring took place in a few schools I have worked in. In each case, the net result was fewer teachers, less money spent on salaries. It is no different here.

    Sturgeon and Swinney should be ashamed of themselves. The cfe has been disastrous. Teaching multiple courses in the same class is a disgrace and has produced an entirely predictable outcome, poor results.

    If the snp government is to be judged on education, it has failed miserably. Time for heads to roll.
  8. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    SNP has made a complete mess of education, I've been saying that for a few years now.

    Multi-level teaching took place under 5-14 too, so, personally, I don't see the big deal there: it shouldn't have been done then and it shouldn't be happening now either.

    Swinney is clueless, he just doesn't know what he's doing.

    They're failing in a few other areas too, eg the Glasgow and Edinburgh hospitals and the ferries.
  9. subman68

    subman68 Occasional commenter

    Yes multi level teaching took place in 5-14 but it was mainly SG f,g,c and higher was in. Different class with maybe int2. They were all doing more or less the same. We now have higher n5 and n4 in the same class and the subjects are completely different. What I teach to n5 is not a watered down higher it is completely different. We also have the genius idea of having S4, 5 and 6 in the same class. Crazy. Add on that that S4 in my school get 5 periods when S5 & 6 get 6 periods and what you have is half your class walk out 1 period a week.
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  10. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

  11. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

  12. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Anyone heard anything else about this restructuring? I asked around last week and there were a lot of FHs, in Glasgow at any rate, who did not attend that meeting?

    Anyone else have any info?
  13. inthered

    inthered Occasional commenter

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  14. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

  15. BillyBobJoe

    BillyBobJoe Lead commenter

    I've got no brief to defend CfE but that article seems to be comparing apples to oranges. Swinney is praising work in primary schools in selected areas and this is (if I read it right) being juxtaposed with a growing attainment gap at higher. Given the work Swinney quoted began in 2015 then surely precisely none of the pupils involved will have sat their highers yet?

    Of course I would question how relevant schools are to closing the attainment gap and consider the SNP's putting the focus on schools to be inept. I suspect the bulk of it is due to poverty, which has increased massively in recent years due to the policies of the UK government.
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  16. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    It is a cynical political tactic for Swinney to suggest that there has been investment in one area seeing an improvement and using language to suggest that the attainment gap has closed in all areas. The fact that I had to re-read the exact wording of his speech is testament enough to show he is simply playing with semantics.
    Swinney is without shame. The attainment gap is not closing, higher pass rates are dropping on his watch. Evidently he is another keep-my-post-at-any-cost politician.
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  17. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    I think Swinney isn't comparing work in primary schools with Higher attainment. He's patting himself on the back wrt the silly and ineffective PEF scheme (£750 million?!) and quotes praise from some international body while national exam pass rates are falling. If I were him I'd adopt a wait and see approach to find out if the work done in primary schools filters through to N5/Higher in a few years time. Personally, I expect it won't.

    Swinney gives the distinct impression that he just doesn't know what he's doing.

    But you're right, it's poverty.
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  18. bigjimmy2

    bigjimmy2 Lead commenter

    Just read through this thread again. £750 million, eh? You'd think three quarters of a billion pounds would make a difference, not only "a" difference, but a f______ great big difference.

    If I was spending that kind of cash I'd want guarantees that it would work and would be mightily embarrassed if it didn't. Time to resign?

    PS that cash would buy at least 15,000 new teachers, which is a no-brainer for me. Is there something I'm missing here, or is it just me?
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  19. MilkyBar Kid

    MilkyBar Kid Occasional commenter

    The vast majority (if not all) of the PEF money should have gone to early years in terms of infrastructure (new classrooms), extra teachers and learning assistants to get P1/2 class sizes down and work on the basics. The fact that the money was accessible up to S3 resulted in mickey mouse Horseriding PTs to keep the S3 neds happy, which will really close the attainment gap!
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  20. teachaaaaaa

    teachaaaaaa New commenter

    The problem with the PTs is that there is no other way to pay teachers extra for taking on additional responsibilities. There’s not much I like about the English system but their TLR system that pays teachers without making them ‘management’ is far more sensible. Also lets people take on responsibility without being a manager if they don’t want to be. Are you being flippant about horse riding? Or serious!!

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