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Requirement of TA's to be qualified

Discussion in 'Teaching assistants' started by Newee, Nov 17, 2010.

  1. Hello all, I've been working as a TA for about a year now and have my level 2 TA qualification, but am wondering whether these qualifications will become necessary in the future firstly to obtain this type of posting, and also whether employed TA's will have to take these exams regardless of how long they've been doing the job.
     
  2. Hello all, I've been working as a TA for about a year now and have my level 2 TA qualification, but am wondering whether these qualifications will become necessary in the future firstly to obtain this type of posting, and also whether employed TA's will have to take these exams regardless of how long they've been doing the job.
     
  3. The new government is highly unlikely to pay for training and qualifications for TAs, so it is very unlikely that any sort of qualifications will become a requirement.
     
  4. Ophelia 9

    Ophelia 9 New commenter

    Exams? What exams are taken as part of a current training course? This is a genuine question as one of the many things which irks me about current training for TAs is the fact that it all seems to be tutor-assessed and they don't have to do all the exams and other stuff which I did when I trained!
     
  5. Hi there,
    You can continue to do NVQ Level 3 or Support Workers In School Level 3 Then there is also HLTA this is NVQ Level 4 equivalent no exam but there is written work that is assessed an then an assessment in school that last approx three hours but this includes meeting with your class teacher and head.
    There was talk originally of these qualifications being compulsory but allo funding seems to have been withdrawn so not likely now that this will happen.
    Hope this helps

     
  6. phatsals

    phatsals Occasional commenter

    HLTA is Level 3 NVQ (A' level equivalent).
     
  7. absolute bollokcs.
    anyone who has any A-levels will know that the tick-a-box nonsense of NVQ, HLTA, etc, is about as intellectually challenging as buying a Happy Meal from the local McDonalds.
     
  8. Couldn't agree more to be honest. I did my hlta this time last year without barely batting an eyelid. It's a ta level 4 qualification, which is where I reckon they must be getting confused. Like I said, minimal effort required, hlta status acquired.
     
  9. phatsals

    phatsals Occasional commenter

    Please read the entire thread, not just one post for convenience sake. You will see the
    previous posters assertion that HLTA is NVQ Level 4, I was correcting that.
    It is not my assertion that Level 3 is A'Level equivalent, it is simply accepted as such, please look up NVQ equivalence on the government website. This is being increasingly accepted as sufficient to teach entire classes. Again, not my assertion but becoming custom and practice in Primary and Secondary schools alike.
     
  10. I have my NVQ L 3 and HLTA status- My HLTA Tutor and Assessor both stated that HLTA, for school record purposes, is classed level 4(?). It can be gained as part of the foundation degree in our area. It is definately not NVQ L 4 as NV<u>Q</u> is a qualification, not a status like HLTA.



     
  11. Hi there we were told by the university we attended and by an NVQ assessor that the Specialist Teaching Assistant (STA) is NVQ3 equivalent and that the HLTA is NVQ level 4, so I apologise if I posted incorrectly but was only following what I had been told earlier this year by the people leading the course.
     
  12. snugglepot

    snugglepot Occasional commenter

    I was told STAC was Level 4 as I could have gone on to 2nd year of Degree.

    absolute bollokcs.
    anyone who has any A-levels will know that the tick-a-box nonsense of NVQ, HLTA, etc, is about as intellectually challenging as buying a Happy Meal from the local McDonalds.

    Please look at my file as it certainly wasn't tick a box.I really don't think you know much about the HLTA as the only boxes to tick were the ones on the grid to show you had covered each area.I had a large file which would hardly shut.This was a sample to show that I am working at that level.It isn't a qualification because you are supposed to be working at that level all the time.I completed the 3 day route and was finished the whole thing within a month.The assessor interviewed a teacher, the Headteacher and myself.He asked a lot of questions and both the Headteacher and a class teacher were surprised how in depth the questions were.I have worked as a Learning Support Assistant for a long time and continually update my knowledge and this was one of the ways I could do that.I have since completed two other courses and gained two other qualifications.I trained as an NNEB originally.
     
  13. My understanding is that all new TA's should have a basic NVQ 2 qualification (or equivalent) before being even selected for interview, and some are now asking for NVQ 3. These can be obtained from your local college with entry reuirements being good standard English and Maths GCE level.
    The course usually takes a year, with 16 hours a week working in schools/nurseries. I worked my way into schools by working as a supply TA so I would be working and earning whilst studying. Some colleges may reduce their entry fee's (eg If on benefits, or in my case I was over 25 and learning a new skill, but you have to be pushy!)
    I have been told that all schools will demand NVQ3 by 2015 so be warned.
     
  14. My understanding is that all new TA's should have a basic NVQ 2 qualification
    I have been told that all schools will demand NVQ3 by 2015 so be warned.

    Absolute rubbish! As someone involved in TA recruitment and in-house training I am never concerned whether TAs have either NVQ2 or 3. I am much more likely to invite for interview someone with a good general standard of education- AT LEAST GCSE maths and english grade A-C or equivalent, preferably A levels. This is far more valuable than dubious qualifications obtained by 'evidencing' 'competencies' ....whatever that means!
     
  15. I did my recent dissertation on TA qualifcation levels and effectiveness and found that there is no LEGAL requirement for TAs/LSAs etc to have any sort of qualification at all either in England or in Wales (not sure about Scotland or NI). Schools obviously prefer that you to have some sort of qualification before employing you to support children's learning but it is not essential - many primary schools like to employ people they know such as parents who may have expereince from volunteering etc. The secondary I work at also seems to employ mainly from the local community and although they do like them to do their NVQ, there are some there who still don't have it.
    check out the latest research on TA characteristics and effectiveness at: http://www.ioe.ac.uk/study/departments/phd/5619.html
     

  16. Absolute rubbish! As someone involved in TA recruitment and in-house training I am never concerned whether TAs have either NVQ2 or 3. I am much more likely to invite for interview someone with a good general standard of education- AT LEAST GCSE maths and english grade A-C or equivalent, preferably A levels. This is far more valuable than dubious qualifications obtained by 'evidencing' 'competencies' ....whatever that means!

    I have serious concerns if you are involved in TA recruitment!!!!

     
  17. I have also completed my NVQ 3 a couple of years ago after many years of work ( A levels and O levels completed first time round) and can state hand on heart that it is not a walk in the park. The amount of background work (policies, autism, Dyslexia, etc.) that'is required to complete this course, is not that easy. I have had to complete a lesson plan with a risk assessment plus everything else that goes with one as well as delivering it. Afterwards, my teacher assessed my WILF, WALT and delivery along with the differentiation that each lesson should include to be inclusive. The assessment was that of a trainee teacher. However, I must state we are not trained to be teachers.

    All I can ask is to look at anyone coming to you with a NVQ3 as someone who has worked hard and probably knows more about procedures that most of the staff.

    However, not all assessors are as good as others, mine however were BRILLIANT and pushed us so that NVQ4 would be a walk in the park or if we wanted to go further would be easy.

    Ask to look at their portfolio, the more evidence the better for the employer. Should have AT LEAST TWO bits to show practice plus TWO for knowledge.
     
  18. Apologises for errors in previous message - new notebook and not used to the keyboard!!!!
     
  19. I'm really disappointed to hear you say that, I gained HLTA status in 2006 and worked hard for it, i realise that in the earlier stages of development it was more difficult, but i know many ta's who are proud of their acheivement now. I also have a degree (Hons) which I took in 1981,and a foundation degree last year and see others acheiving teaching degrees which also seem far easier than in the past. Most HLTA's treat the status as worthwhile and are giving their eyelids quite a battering at your comments!

     
  20. i have done level 2 of supporting in learning and teaching by NCFE. the school says that i am not recognized as a qualified TA. I am a TA on temporary TA so the school is not letting me do level 3 . is there anyone who knows that i can do NVQ 3 by CACHE or OCR without attending any classes and can showing my assignments and working exopereince to them.

     

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