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Requesting part-time - advice needed

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by lil miss, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. I haven't had a baby or got a child (yet - though we are trying) but I would like to request part-time hours.

    I'm finding work is taking over my life and I'm feeling pretty miserable. Having thought about it (a lot) and discussed it with hubby, I feel reducing my hours might be the right thing for me. I know there are rules that apply to requesting part-time after having a child, but where do I stand as someone who doesn't have any children as yet? Can I still request part-time? What are my chances? Is there any particular way in which I should go about this?

    All help greatly appreciated!

    Thank you in advance, lil miss x
     
  2. I haven't had a baby or got a child (yet - though we are trying) but I would like to request part-time hours.

    I'm finding work is taking over my life and I'm feeling pretty miserable. Having thought about it (a lot) and discussed it with hubby, I feel reducing my hours might be the right thing for me. I know there are rules that apply to requesting part-time after having a child, but where do I stand as someone who doesn't have any children as yet? Can I still request part-time? What are my chances? Is there any particular way in which I should go about this?

    All help greatly appreciated!

    Thank you in advance, lil miss x
     
  3. tafkam

    tafkam Occasional commenter

    You can always ask. But there are no regulations protecting your right to ask, and so your school doesn't have to so much as acknowledge your request. Of course, it would be a pretty poor school that didn't, but that's how the law stands.
    How long is a piece of string?
    I'd suggest starting by informal discussions with your Head, or other relevant SMT person.

     
  4. Thanks for the advice tafkam. I really appreciate it.
    Lil miss x
     
  5. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter


    On Maternity Leave and wondering if you can return part time? Here's how to write the letter to your Head.
    There is a formal procedure involved in asking to change your part-time hours, and I suggest that you do it, very formally.
    Here is my standard-answer-that-I-prepared-earlier on requesting p-t as a parent:

    You have a legal right to make an application (but only once per year), and have it seriously considered, but <u>not </u>a right to have it granted.

    If the request is turned down, it must be for an <u>appropriate business reason</u>, and they must tell you what the reason is so that you can appeal against it.

    First stage is to put your request in writing to the Head; the Head then has 28 days to hold a meeting with you to discuss it.

    NB You can see from the letter that the onus is on YOU to show how it can be managed, YOU have to identify any possible drawbacks for the school and say how they can be overcome. If you just say there are no problems, and then they identify some and turn your request down, you haven't had a chance to show a possible solution. So make sure you think it through carefully, both the problems (normally to do with communication between the two halves) and how to solve them.
    Here's the sort of letter you should write. Nice and formal - shows you want a formal - and legal - reply!

    Dear xxx

    I would like to apply to work a pattern that is different to my normal working pattern under my right provided in law. I confirm that I meet each of the eligibility criteria as follows:

    * I have responsibility for the upbringing of either a child under 16 or a disabled child under 18.

    * I am the mother, father, adopter, guardian or foster mother or father of the child, or married to or the partner of the mother, father, adopter, guardian or foster mother or father of the child

    * I am making this request to help me care for the child

    * I am making this request no later than two weeks before the child's sixteenth birthday or 18th birthday where disabled

    * I have worked continuously as an employee of the company for the last 26 weeks

    * I have not made a request to work flexibly under this right during the past 12 months

    The proposed new working pattern that I am applying for is &hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;

    This will affect you as an employer in that &hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;. This impact on you as an employer can be lessened or removed by &hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;

    I understand that according to the legislation, you will hold a meeting with me to discuss this within 28 days.
    There you have it, best of luck with the baby!
    ____________________________________________________________
    TheoGriff. Member of the TES Careers Advice Service.
    The TES Careers Advice service runs seminars and workshops, one-to-one careers and applications advice, one-to-one interview coaching and an application review service.
    I do Application and Interview one-to-ones, and also contribute to the Job Application Workshops. We look at application letters, executive summaries and interviews.
    The next Workshops I'm doing that still have vacancies are on Sunday 13th and Friday 25th February. There is also a specialist Workshop for applications to SLT on Saturday February 19th.
    Go to https://www.tes.co.uk/article.aspx?storyCode=6060678 for more details of these and other seminars.
    Look forward to seeing you!
     
  6. Chica77

    Chica77 New commenter

    The OP doesn't have a child! You should post this on the pregnancy or baby and toddler forum though, there are always loads of questions about part time.
    One of my colleagues went part time about 3 or 4 years ago, and she's older so her kids are all grown up, and she managed to get it. She was late 50s though, so starting to think about retirement. I don't know if that makes a difference.
    I'd just have an informal chat with your head about it.
     
  7. frustum

    frustum Lead commenter

    I went part-time before having kids, for work-life balance. The head of the school I was in refused to consider it (for two of us - and he ended up with us both leaving and not being able to fill the vacancies). But other schools were more flexible, and I found a part-time post.
    Ask and see what they say. If the budget's tight and they need to cut hours in your department, they may be only too delighted. The other thing that's worth thinking about, if you're secondary, is whether you are happy to have a timetable which goes across all five days. I was: since I just wanted less pressure, I actually preferred three/four lessons a day to three full days. That may make a school more amenable to the suggestion, as it makes things much easier for the timetabler.
     
  8. I speak as someone who has always worked p/t in schools because I had another profession which I continued with whilst teaching. Teaching 3 days per week, then 2 after the first child, then 1 after the second. People treat part-timers differently. Even in schools where they appreciate the reasons for your part-timeness, you have less rights than the full-time colleagues. For example Performance Management targets do not necessarily take account of the fact you are doing half the time in school! and you are kept out of the loop when information is passed to people. Also I think that quite alot of people are really resentful that you have time off, even if you're not being paid!
    In addition to this, because you are part- time, you have more time to do planning in your own time, and it swallows up the time which you are not paid for. I work alongside 2 other teachers who work 1 day a week and I feel that we do get a raw deal when it comes to time off, PPA, conditions of work and expectations.
    What a Job's comforter I sound! I just think that perhaps going part time isn't necessarily your complete answer. Maybe, you ought to be looking at ways you can reduce the hours that you are putting in that make you feel like this.
    If you want to go part time, after thinking about the down side, I agree that you should have a friendly chat with a member of senoir management who you think would be sympathetic. I wish you well... Good Luck
     
  9. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    BumpBest wishes
    ___________________________________________________
    Meet Theo on line on the TES JobSeekers Forum, every week in print in the TES magazine, or in person at one of the TES Careers Advice Service seminars or individual consultations
    I shall be doing the Moving into SLT seminar on19 Jan.
    Sold out - but another one now arranged for 2 February


     

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