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Redundancies.

Discussion in 'Teaching assistants' started by tamtams, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Well, the cut backs have reached our school. We have all had the official letter, and have a big meeting next week. Just Ta's involved not teachers, yet. Could anybody out there enlighten me on the process they have been through. Did anybody have to have an interview to try and keep their positions. I know of some schools where they didn't have interviews. They were marked on a point system, attendance, ,time keeping, qualifications and experience etc. As we have many more Ta's than most schools, we are guessing around fifteen of us will be going. I know we will find this information out next week but would like to find out a bit more before then. Many thanks.
     
  2. stargirl81

    stargirl81 New commenter

    Hi, I'm sorry that this is happening to you. It happened to me in May last year. There were 6 ta's on temp contracts and only 4 jobs. We had to write a letter to our head teacher using the job specification that was given to us for each job. So for example I wanted one of the 2 1:1 jobs first so i put those as 1st and 2nd choice then the 2 general jobs as 3rd and 4th.

    I had to talk about my qualifications and experience etc.. my head then went through and looked at our original application forms and matched some to the jobs and obviously got rid of two of us. I was one of those two but luckily enough for me a week after I was told I wasn't being kept on (due to no KS2 experience) the school got funding for two boys who were due to start in September, so I was kept on. But the whole experience was awful I'm sorry to say.. not just for us but the other ( permanent) TA's in the school, the teachers, kitchen staff and caretaker... we are a close school.

    All I can say is at this point you really cannot worry about others... I know it sounds selfish but right now think about yourself. If you have to do a letter or even application form then sell yourself, put down everything that shows of your skills and experiences. IF you have to do an interview then the same applies, you need to sell yourself and all your strengths.

    I wish you lots of luck and my final piece of advice is lots of positive thinking.. and chocolate!!! xx
     
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  3. sunshineneeded

    sunshineneeded Lead commenter

    tamtams, I don't have any experience of this but I'm very sorry it's happening to you. As stargirl rightly says, this is the time to think about you and really sell your qualifications, skills and experience. Best of luck x
     
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  4. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Thank you both for your comments, and I will take it on board. We are all on permanent contracts so will be interesting and scary, but hey ho, onwards and upwards as they say. Thank you again.
     
  5. picsgirl

    picsgirl New commenter

    Sorry this is happening to you - in the 5+ years I've been with this school this has happened twice. The first time 3 people volunteered which was enough for that years budget. Last year again 3 people left, this time 1 voluntary & 2 didn't have their contracts renewed.
    We have been told there are likely to be more cuts.
    As for the procedure our LEA used - firstly volunteers are requested. The council can then offer redeployment for a job at the same or lower grade - if this is not accepted for a reasonable reason then it may affect redundancy payout.
    For enforced redundancy our LEA uses a point system. 1 point for a lead/management role & 1 point for delivering in a specialist area that no other TA us able to deliver.
    The points are added up & the TA with the lowest number will leave.
    If there are more than one staff with the same score then the TA with the shortest time at the school will leave.
    If there are staff who started on the same day & have the same points then the TA with the lowest redundancy cost leaves.
    Time keeping, attendance, qualifications etc have been irrelevant.
    Unfortunately anyone (support staff) that started after me have now left, so if more cuts happen & nobody volunteers, then I'm out the door. I feel very unsettled everyday.
    Wishing your luck - it's very stressful.
     
  6. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Thank you.
     
  7. Gsr25

    Gsr25 Occasional commenter

    I had this at my last school. I was planning to leave anyway so I put myself up for volunary redundancy. It was a horrible experience, they all had to fill in skills audits but luckily because I chose to leave and I was an “expensive” HLTA I saved the others but everyone had their hours reduced. A year later I learned that two people saved the previous year (including the other HLTA) had been made redundant. I’m sorry you are going through this and wish you luck
     
  8. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    It's certainly is horrible. Fourteen of us have to go. We will all know by first week in March who stays and who goes.
     
  9. Gsr25

    Gsr25 Occasional commenter

    I’m so sorry you are going through this tamtams. So 14 have to go out of how many? I’m assuming that you will all be given a chance by filling out a skills audit?
     
  10. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Hi,
    14 out of 34. To be honest to many here anyway for a primary school. We are surprised we all lasted this long. Skills audit, wish it was just that simple. It's going to be a nightmare filling in what they want. Still suppose it has to be done.
     
  11. chocolateworshipper

    chocolateworshipper Occasional commenter

    Best of luck to you
     
  12. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Thank you all. We will all know in about three weeks.
     
  13. picsgirl

    picsgirl New commenter

    How did you get on?
    For the third time in six years we had our letters yesterday - intention to make (yet more) redundancies.
     
  14. Mumofone1

    Mumofone1 New commenter

    We are also going through it. Absolutely terrible situation.
     
  15. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Hi, thinking of you picsgirl and mumofone1. Eleven of us went. We have been told the rest of us are ok for two years. There are now nineteen Ta's, some part time some full time, so we will see what happends. Best of luck guys. What area are you in?
     
  16. sunshineneeded

    sunshineneeded Lead commenter

    tamtams - glad you are OK. It must be a massive relief - even though no-one is in this job for the money, it doesn't mean any of us can afford (or want) to be out of work! Picsgirl and mumofone1 - hope your news is good. Thinking of you.
     
  17. picsgirl

    picsgirl New commenter

    Thank you for your support Tamtams & Sunshineneeded - sorry I haven't replied earlier, but I think I was probably trying to avoid the issue over Easter - replying is making the situation real. Back to work next week & we should know the outcome on the 23rd.
     
  18. tamtams

    tamtams New commenter

    Hi picsgirl. Have you heard anything? Do hope you are ok.
     
  19. picsgirl

    picsgirl New commenter

    Hi, thanks for asking Tamtams - had a phone call a few hours ago - I finish at the end of August.
     
  20. galerider123

    galerider123 Lead commenter

    Sympathies, @picsgirl . At least you get a few months to plan your next move, though. x
     

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