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Recruitment consultants' teaching experience

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Anonymous, Dec 10, 2010.

  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    This has really annoyed me. Had some feedback from a recruitment consultant. "Nothing negative, but apparently the class were a bit noisy. Could you have done anything different?"
    I'm sorry - was she there? Does she know any context? Has she ever been a teacher? The class were busy making posters in the afternoon on a very snowy day, were all on task and were chatting. The head was doing her rounds, came in, looked at the work, chatted to me, made a comment to a child to keep the noise down and left.
    I'm assuming that is what she is talking about. But what it did was bring back all my insecurities about teaching. One person's noise is different to another person's noise. It was just the insinuation (or at least the perception of it) in the recruitment consultant's voice.
    Rant over.
  2. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    Maybe you could reply that you've not had much supply work this term and could the consultant have done anything different? ;-)
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    Not sure if that would have gone down too well [​IMG]

  4. Lol it would have been flippin' funny 'though! I sympathise with you - being a music specialist I have a very high tolerance level for noise. If the kids were on task but chatty then what's the problem? Unless you're doing supply in a grammar or independent school I don't think there are many people who could achieve silence for an entire lesson, especially not at secondary school level. It drives me mad that agencies are run by people who have never taught in their lives and have no idea about the realities of teaching a class you have only just met, or teaching full stop really.

    What we need is a supply agency run by supply teachers.
  5. It seems to have been only fairly recently that schools are making unreasonable complaints about supply teachers to hiring agencies.
    As I posted recently- a head teacher was furious that I refused to clean up a child's vomit-(no concerns re health and safety there)
    That aside, could it be that as the cuts are getting closer, heads are looking at agency supply charges of £180+ per day and feeling they ought to be getting their "money's worth"? (whatever that is)
    It's a worrying trend-but perhaps just worrying for agents.
    Schools don't need agents but they do need teachers to cover for absence.
    I'm sure PPA and CPD cover will soon be a thing of the past. (PPA and CPD will be abolished)
    However, I urge colleagues to keep contacting HTs direct with their details- a critical mass of qualified -fairly priced directly employed teachers is bound to be more attractive to schools.
    The other point on this thread- 2 of the "consultants" I've had the misfortune to have to deal with-were trained as teachers but never had teaching jobs.They were also obnoxious.
  6. An agency consultant once told me that she has had experience of schools making up entirely bogus complaints about a supply teacher to try and get out of paying the agency any money.
  7. Some schools do come out with the strangest complaints about supply teachers. I work for an agency and have been told that the school would not have a teacher back as they did not leave a shelf of books straight.
    On the subject of schools complaining to agencies and them passing it on to teachers. Would you feel happioer if something was said about you and the agency didn't tell you??
  8. I was secretly observed from outside the classroom recently! How very clever and innovative! The agency informed me each school has a different system for teacher observations! Rubbish. I was spied on plain and simple. I am an NQT and my confidence could have been set back enormously by this debacle. I actually found it pathetic - but also quite worrying.
  9. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    This conjures up all sorts of bizarre images for me - HT on nearby roof with binoculars, a periscope popping up and down at the door glass, a member of SMT posing as a window cleaner whilst teetering precariously on a ladder...

    As you say, it all sounds rather pathetic.
  10. That really made me giggle as the head was quite evasive and the year leader didn`t have the time to talk to me - they were obviously in cahoots and very busy planning their `lets spy on the supply` day! Funnily enough the caretaker did come in to check a plug socket! Was it the head masquerading in overalls?
    No seriously - I rarely close a classsroom door as I try not to swear, yell or threaten my class (give me time - I am an NQT!) and the kindly year leader who didnt have the time for any feedback told the agency that I wasn`t managing the class as she was listening from the corridor!
  11. Anonymous

    Anonymous New commenter

    When I was training, the head sat in the gap between the classrooms behind a curtain. Didn't tell me until later on that day.

  12. Its all beginning to look like a carry on film or an episode from ello ello.I am laughing so much at the image of a head being revealed by an errant child whilst sitting there nonchalantly with a clipboard and pen. I thought school would all be uber professional. What a rude awakening I am having. Get me back to retail.....
  13. The dimwit head has probably not heard of "social co-operative learning" whereby pupils are expected to chat about the tasks and objectives set!
    What a control freak! There is mindless chat and highly intellectual chat/talk from kids!

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