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Professions other than teaching

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by trimmtrab, Mar 31, 2018.

  1. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    I work in FE an. Not really stressed with the workload as I am pretty well organised but just need a new challenge away from education. I have a degree and Masters but am haivng real trouble getting another job, I have applied for so many but with no luck and it's got to stage where I think I'm just unemployable outside of my current role.

    Anyone else having/had difficulties? Do you mention Masters in applications as you're going for jobs that don't pay well? I am late 40s so maybe age has something to do with it. Pay in my job is 27k so I'm being realistic but also know that is a low wage for the job I do.

    Anyone have any help? advice? Thanks
     
  2. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    an agency might be able to help you find something.
     
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  3. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    If you feel that being over qualified is an inhibiting factor on your application form, use the space to list your credentials up to, say degree level, and then presumably there is another space on the form to add "other" certs or skills. Put the MA in there, along with any other bits and pieces you have to your name.
    It's quite legitimate to present your employment history in an expedient way like this, although if you do decide to approach an agency (I recommend!) then make sure you leave nothing out because casting your net wide will open a lot of new doors.
    There are many generic job seeking websites-take your pick, where you upload your CV and just sit back. You can apply filters for the general field of work you seek, the hours you want to do, the salary range which interests you. Agencies will contact you through this. As well as being a less labour intensive way of seeking work, it will deliver ideas to your table which you may not have otherwise considered. Try it!
     
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  4. Jolly_Roger12

    Jolly_Roger12 Occasional commenter

    I know how you feel, @trimmtrab. Once I got the boot from teaching, I tried to find other work, from graduate level down to shelf-filling but without much luck. Like you, I felt unemployable, and then being in my late fifties did not help. When I was signing onto with a tempting agency for non-teaching work, the consultant said that realistically, my chances were not good. He explained that he found ex-teachers more difficult than most to place in work because there seemed to be a reluctance by employers to take them on, even as temps, despite their supposed enhanced skill-sets. He suggested that this might be due to the fact that everyone has had an experience of a teacher they did not like.

    As @sbkrobson suggested, I tried employment websites but the only agencies that contacted me were teaching ones.
     
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  5. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    Well, it's a hard comfort to know that I'm not the only one banging my head against the wall. Thank you.
     
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  6. emerald52

    emerald52 Star commenter

    I would try to develop challenge within your current role or in your own time. So speak to the Principal about taking on new responsibilities, learn something like a language, become a magistrate or CAB volunteer. This may make new job more possible and will give you challenge.
     
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  7. pepper5

    pepper5 Star commenter

    Late 40s is young.

    Have you ever thought about something totally different such as painting and decorating, plastering, plumbing etc? Or how about learning computer programming?
     
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  8. sabrinakat

    sabrinakat Star commenter

    Have you ever considered an independent school? Many want higher qualifications, such as MAs, etc. Just a thought.
     
  9. saluki

    saluki Lead commenter

    Loads of things to do in FE. Have a look at your college website. From memory, the safeguarding lead was an ex-teacher as was the Health and safety person. Admin jobs. Different subject. Management roles. Examining or assessor roles. Mental health managers. Behaviour managers.
    I always fancied becoming a dyslexia specialist myself.
     
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  10. asnac

    asnac Established commenter

    I knew a secondary science teacher who retrained as a coach driver. Often ended up transporting kids from the school he'd taught at. Seemed very happy.
     
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  11. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    Hi there, I want out of education. Yep, I ahve those qualifications. Is a thought as you say.
     
  12. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    I think I have given off "a stink" as an unhappy person and therefore it's fairly unlikely my present employers would do anything for me. I did exactly as you said at all the local Unis. Afraid I got nowhere.
     
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  13. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    Yep, did Health & Safety, was lead on Quality Assurance, Sustainability Panel. No thanks from the college. Found it took up all of my time. Used it on application forms, got nowhere.

    Volunteered as a reporter for local newspaper for nine years. That was enjoyable and maybe that is a direction I would like to go. These are good suggsitons. TY.
     
  14. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    I've recently had workmen in putting in a new kitchen and bathroom and building a new conservatory (there goes my retirement lump sum) and chatting to the workmen they seemed to be extremely busy even during the winter. The electricians seemed to have the best job. They turned up and spent and hour or two laying out the wiring and when the fitters/plumbers had done their jobs, the electricians came back for an hour or two to wire up the plugs/lights etc. and I paid hundreds of pounds for that. We are desperately short of people with these skills and if you're practically minded, I'd give it a go.
     
  15. Gsr25

    Gsr25 Occasional commenter

    I thought the same when we had our building work done a few years ago. I think more people should look into this kind of work as it’s always in demand.
     
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  16. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    Not sure if your a woman or a man but the comments abve are real.You can apply on course for retrain for building skill courses but if yu lucky you g them paid forif yor a woman and undertake residential work you wil be in great demand as women wil hire you if you work if good.If a man the same applies but you fight for the work with alot of other men doing similar work.
    There is a need for lots of skills in the building and refurbishing and diy sectors.If you wish to do electrical or plumbing you will need to undertake training and ideally, for a plumber ,you need both the electrical and corgi certification..and then you have to undertake upgrade course often each year for the qualification.
    Depending upon where you live the price you make is different..but in london where the average is about £200 +a day but varies according to what you are doing..some jobs are more, some less.If you have an ability for decorating you can always find work..without with out qualificationan, as can garden maintainence or even window cleaning.
    At present I am annoyed a havin gthese skills i cant do a lot due to my back and legs being a pain,but if your able and willing yo can always find work.I started of mowing gardens,then erecting fences, then laying patios,tree surgery.walls, extensions and all the skills of maintainance such as drains, plumbing,decorationg etc etc
     
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  17. saluki

    saluki Lead commenter

    I know someone who left school at 16. Most of his contemporaries went on to Uni. He has his own business as a central heating person; fitting gas central heating and maintaining it. He also fits a few bathrooms and kitchens. He is doing very nicely thank you. He has been rushed off his feet during the recent cold spell, can pick and choose his work, has a good reputation and a better house than many of his peers from school. He doesn't have student debt to pay off.
    However, running your own business is not for everyone. It can be very stressful. I gave up running my own businesss in order to enter teaching. haha. I think a bog standard plodding job would be a good start to get your head in order before deciding what you want to do on a more permanent basis.
     
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  18. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

    I am a male tutor and not going to say I am not the practical type however have never done anything even put up a shelf, I can build Ikea furniture however. It would be training someone from absolute scratch. Great suggestions. Keep them coming.
     
  19. trimmtrab

    trimmtrab New commenter

     
  20. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    IKEA actually employ people to go and build furniture for those too clueless, lazy, infirm, otherwise unable to make it themselves.

    If I ever leave teaching, it's the job I'll be applying for.
    You get to nosy in people's homes and spend everyday building IKEA furniture.
    And you probably get a fabulous van kitted out with all kinds of Allen keys and the like in lovely little drawers...:D
     

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