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Private schools employment UAE none matching degree and PGCE issue

Discussion in 'Teaching abroad' started by ndosanjh, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. adrixargentina

    adrixargentina Occasional commenter

    I thought the visa process was done before you leave the UK and then when in the UAE the medical is required which is understandably done over there. Really they shouldn't be messing with people's lives like that!
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  2. Morena123

    Morena123 New commenter

    Does anyone know if a PGCE that simply specifies 'Secondary Education' with no subject would be accepted by ADEK or KHDA?

    That's what my PGCE says on it... It's from the University of Buckingham and was completed while teaching but I do have QTS (not all students on the course did that part as you had to have leave from your school to complete a placement elsewhere).

    I understand about your degree matching your teaching subject but have never got any response to the question about a PGCE that simply doesn't specify a subject. I guess it's not that common...

    On a related note, if you're applying for leadership roles is the matching degree/PGCE/teaching subject still critical?
  3. chalet_fan

    chalet_fan New commenter

    I couldn’t agree more.

    Sometimes there’s such a backlog your approval isn’t through hence you can’t start your visa application. If you’re lucky you’ll then come in on an e-visa/entry permit and have your medical fairly quickly. I accepted a job last January, cancelled my existing visa in July and had to come back on a visit visa as my entry permit hadn’t been processed. Fortunately I had a few days in hand as I returned before term started but I know people in Abu Dhabi who have still been waiting at half term.
  4. ndosanjh

    ndosanjh New commenter

    That’s good to know as I may consider applying to Dubai schools in the future and was worried the degree matching would be a UAE wide problem.
  5. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    As far as I know the PGCE isn't 'important'. I had to get an equivalency for my degree but not my PGCE and from people's experiences in this thread it seems like the degree is more important than the PGCE if they don't match anyway.
  6. Morena123

    Morena123 New commenter

    Thanks Frosty, that's reassuring. I'm doing a second degree on the side so that I will have one that matches my teaching subject, partly for my own development but also just in case we end up heading to a part of the world where this might be an issue. Glad to hear the PGCE is less likely to be a stumbling block!
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  7. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    I couldn't 100% guarantee it but i have never heard of anyone with an issue with a PGCE other than the fact that some schools that may may more for having a masters don't pay more for having a PGCE - which is fair enough in my opinion, but the people I met in that situation were pretty annoyed by it.
  8. damedurohan

    damedurohan New commenter

    My undergrad degree (English) doesn't match my PGCE (MFL) so I'm "officially" an English teacher when it comes to the teaching license, even though I am part of the MFL department here in Dubai. Not sure about how it works, but if it's fine by my school, it's fine by me.
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  9. cristapper

    cristapper New commenter

    I'm slightly concerned about these requirements. My wife might potentially be posted to Abu Dhabi next year and I was looking to teach there (7 years teaching experience: PGCE in primary, specialism in Geography and currently working as supply cover at an American School abroad) however, my undergrad is in politics and economic history so, from what I've read I doubt I'd qualify for their licence. So might be a long old commute to Dubai for me....
  10. chalet_fan

    chalet_fan New commenter

    I would say it's unlikely you'll get approval. Primary teachers without BEds are a dying breed in AD.

    And you're right, it'll be a long old commute for you to Dubai for a 7.30 start.
  11. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    It's not that bad a commute, we had a teacher drive from Ajman to downtown Abu Dhabi every day a couple of years ago.

    Depending on where in Dubai and where in Abu Dhabi you could probably do it in an hour - 75 mins, which is long but my commute in the UK was over 45 mins so it's not entirely outrageous.
  12. ummyrahma13

    ummyrahma13 New commenter

    I have a Bsc. in accounting and currently pursuing a PGCE in inclusion and learner support .as am currently working as an inclusion assistant and hoping to become a learning support teacher . what are my chances of getting ADEK approval ?
  13. Mr_Frosty

    Mr_Frosty Established commenter

    I don't work for ADEK but my understanding is that they will look at your undergraduate degree so you be fine for a job as a Business teacher I would think - not sure about inclusion and learner support roles in ADEK. FWIW I saw an advert last week or the week before looking for a number of MoE Business teachers so jobs are definitely there at the moment.
  14. BarryRiley

    BarryRiley New commenter

    I thought you needed a matching degree to work in Dubai. Maybe I'm wrong
  15. BarryRiley

    BarryRiley New commenter

    Are you doing the degree full-time in person? If it's not a 3 year degree, completed at a reputable institution in person then you still might have problems
  16. claytie

    claytie New commenter

    You are incredibly arrogant. Not everyone has the money/ family money?? to study their subject to PhD level. As a ‘PhD’ ‘teacher’, do you:
    a) have a rapport with the students?
    b) convey your subject effectively?

    I have worked with many ‘well qualified’ colleagues, who are total bores.....
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