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Priti Patel: Bullying claims from time at DfID revealed

Discussion in 'Personal' started by chelsea2, Mar 4, 2020.

  1. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    NOBODY should be bullied at work - I've been through it and it was very unpleasant.
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  2. alex_teccy

    alex_teccy Star commenter

    You advanced the ideological concept “toxic masculinity” which literally seeks pathologize masculinity in a way that is deeply harmful to the sense of self worth in young men.

    Secondly you constructed a hypothesis of sexual abuse and hierchies which deliberately excluded any reference to women, including a women at the heart of the affair, Ghislaine Maxwell.
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  3. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

  4. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Indeed. The hypocrisy stinks.
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  5. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Fascinating... if I gave an airborne act of procreation. No attempt to justify the misogynistic content of your posts and the way you stereotype women then?
  6. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Still... I'm not intending to derail the thread on account of one poster's behaviour.

    Patel should be investigated. This should be the case if she were male. The fact that she is a woman isn't relevant in terms of deciding whether she has been guilty of bullying in the workplace.
  7. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Women Who Hate Other Women: The Psychological Root of Snarky

    An interesting insight (American naturally). There was a survey carried out the other day that found that women hate actively hate other women (compared to men hating women) by a wide margin. I can't locate it right now. It goes someway to explaining what we see here.
  8. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Not just "should be" but "is being". It was announced a few days ago that the head of the civil service, Sir Mark Sedwill, is in charge of the investigation
  9. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Indeed, and as with all enquiries - we must wait to hear any decision.
  10. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Thank you. I hope it proves to be a robust and accountable investigation.
  11. smilingisgoodforyou

    smilingisgoodforyou Occasional commenter

    I am no Tory supporter, but what has happened to "innocent until proved guilty?" No one here knows what happened. It's all speculation. Wait until an enquiry has been completed before chastising her.
  12. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    There is always the tendency to confuse robust management with bullying. My short time in the services for example - those Sgt Majors wouldn't last a day in today's workplace where people cry "bully" at the drop of a hat.
  13. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    It was a general question.
    Applicable to anyone in a position of leadership.
    No one has answered it yet.
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  14. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    Having retired, I am no longer in a position of leadership. But if you want a retrospective answer, no.
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  15. ajrowing

    ajrowing Lead commenter

    Nonsense. It is much more fun to have ill-informed bigoted rants.
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  16. ajrowing

    ajrowing Lead commenter

    Indeed as is evident from events at Deepcut and elsewhere there has been a serious bullying problem int he services.
  17. ilovesooty

    ilovesooty Star commenter

    Which is exactly the reply I'd expect from a decent manager and person. After all, it's been stated that it's perfectly possible to manage rigorously and challenge staff without bullying people . There should be no confusion. Only the inadequate bully.
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  18. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    I ‘advanced’ it? How? And also, it does nothing of the sort. It refers to a restrictive set of stereotypes about what makes a man a man, which can be harmful to the sense of self-worth in young men.

    What? In that conversation, it was explicitly talking about what leads powerful men to not be held accountable for their actions. Suggesting that not deviating from that conversation to include women, or even a specific woman, is evidence that I’m just criticising men for being men is just silly.
  19. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    And The Guardian goes full on racist...


    And before the usual suspects go "what's racist?" ... if Sadiq Khan was portrayed as a pig in the Daily Mail... yeah it'd be seen as racist.
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  20. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Let all here be in no doubt...the hate shown on this thread is motivated by envy, sexism and racism.

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