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Prime ministerial briefs

Discussion in 'Personal' started by colacao17, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Totally agree. He knew that Theresa May had only made him Foreign Secretary to keep him out of the country and out of her way. He showed no interest in the job and was poorly suited to it.
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  2. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    Indeed and as an extremely intelligent man he continues to defy belief while Mrs May flounders in her incompetence.
  3. Skeoch

    Skeoch Lead commenter

    Churchill as First Lord of the Admiralty:
    Pray state, this day, on one side of a sheet of paper, how the Royal Navy is being adapted to modern warfare.
  4. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    And also, like the rest of parliament, on holiday from the 13th until today.
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  5. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    He hasn't been sighted for over a week now.

    Whatever he is doing - it doesn't look good.
  6. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Chequers is being redecorated so he's been at the government-owned Chevening House in Kent for the parliamentary recess.
  7. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    I'll be contrary and say that it sounds an excellent idea to me. If aides and civil servants can't summarise the key points that the PM - any PM - needs to know about an issue in 2 pages of A4 - up to 4 pages if necessary - they aren't doing their job properly.

    Fans of Yes Minister will remember that a traditional way for civil service to bamboozle PMs and Ministers was to overwhelm them with detail....
  8. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    I expect they are doing what they usually do. He just can't process it.

    Prime ministers need to know a certain amount of detail. This idiot doesn't seem to have much of a clue of anything that's going on, judging by his rambling commentary on whatever the subject profered up to him is.

    Besides, like Dimbleby said: "Nobody trusts Boris Johnson. Who could trust Boris Johnson? He lies everywhere to everyone. He lies to his family. He just makes it up, you know.

    "Boris Johnson, above all politicians, does it his way. He doesn't take any notice of what people say. He doesn't care what people think. He just wants to be prime minister."

    He continued: "Johnson is apeing some of the attitudes of Trump. He is a different kind of political animal, like Trump, very similar rulebook.

    "If you are like that the one thing you don't want is people questioning what you're doing, which is why he won't let his ministers go on television or any serious programme."

    He claimed that Johnson "doesn't give a damn for independent analysis, impartial judgment on what it [the government] is doing. They're not willing to submit to scrutiny… because they're arrogant with power. And they won't last.

    "If you're in the glorious moment of supreme power the one thing you don't want is to be held to account."

    But he warned: "The moment will come when they need to talk to someone. Things are not going to go easy. The decisions that are stacking up over Brexit, trade negotiations, are going to be very difficult. At some point they will need to explain why they failed to get the 100% they promised."

  9. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    So it is not true that he does everything Dominic Cummings tells him to do?

    Given the amount that Dimble-A, Dimble-B and Dimble-dad have been paid by the BBC over the years, I'm not surprised that he is more than a little aghast at the thought of the corporation's cash tap being turned off by the government. David Dimbleby was reportedly paid £450,000 a year just for hosting Question Time once a week.

    He should be careful, though, as word has it that Johnson is nowhere near as keen as Cummings on bringing the Beeb to its knees.
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2020
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  10. HistoryEducator

    HistoryEducator Occasional commenter


    I don't think they are brief enough?
  11. jubilee

    jubilee Star commenter

    Two pages of A4 that is double-spaced and in a large font (and possibly has pictures) might well be a memo!
  12. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    I wonder how many of us fine folk wrote more than 4 sides to the head. If I remember correctly you wrote briefly in bullet points what you wanted them to know or you wanted to convey.
    Depends what you are conveying as you only need brief reports unless it is a technical paper.
    Trump seems to just grab whats given and shouts it out as a victory for him as he is ia so narcissistic!
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  13. gainly

    gainly Star commenter

    I'm not sure who would want to wear them.
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  14. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Then he shouldn't have accepted the job - especially given FS is such an important job in the Government.
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  15. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

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  16. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    One thing that is really obvious is he has no leadership skills.

    In a year or so things could be quite a lot worse than they are right now.

    As his natural response to adversity is to hide - it doesn't bode well.
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  17. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    He needed to get into cabinet if he was to become PM and leader of the party. Theresa May thought she was being clever, but it was just one of the many ways in which she brought about her own downfall.
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  18. HistoryEducator

    HistoryEducator Occasional commenter

    Theresa May was not PM material, no where near manipulative enough.She also had the wrong advisors.
    Someone should have made her read Machiavelli.
  19. HistoryEducator

    HistoryEducator Occasional commenter

  20. HistoryEducator

    HistoryEducator Occasional commenter

    "ET TU BORIS" said Saint Theresa



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