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Prime ministerial briefs

Discussion in 'Personal' started by colacao17, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

  2. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    So the clown of a PM can't be bothered to read memos if they're too long and MI5 is limiting the intelligence it passes to Priti Patel because of a lack of trust.
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  3. Bedlam3

    Bedlam3 Star commenter

    I must admit sometimes I don't read @Duke of Yorks posts when they get over about 50 lines. o_O
  4. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Two pages of A4 is not a memo - it's an essay.

    “The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being read.”
    — Winston Churchill
  5. Kandahar

    Kandahar Star commenter

    [QUOTE="florian gassmann, post: 13038999, member: 166303"\]

    “The length of this document defends it well against the risk of its being read.”
    — Winston Churchill[/QUOTE]
    A bit like marking pupils' work.

    Why produce a page of foolscap in various colours when "satisfactory" will do the same job?
  6. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    So he's bone idle and has a short attention span

    Remind you of anyone ?
  7. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Government by ADHD

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  8. Laphroig

    Laphroig Lead commenter

    The thought of Johnson’s briefs made me gag.
  9. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    How long should a brief be? Does the name give a hint?
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  10. mothorchid

    mothorchid Star commenter

    I'm glad to see I am not the only one who misunderstood the thread title...:oops:
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  11. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    As he has apparently disappeared of late you wonder whether in fact he has lost them.
  12. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    He had a reputation for being lazy and not caring about details before he became PM. I wonder how long it will be before they have to keep putting his name throughout to retain his attention and then putting lots of pictures in it.
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  13. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    ..and write it in crayon.
  14. Stiltskin

    Stiltskin Star commenter

    Perhaps they should create a podcast for him - Boris's briefs
  15. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Unlike Theresa May, who tried to micro-manage everything herself, And look what happened to her. :(

    The best advice I ever had,from the head when taking over as director of a relatively large department, was delegate - don't think you can do everyone's job for them. They won't thank you for it. Johnson may well delegate too much, but that is probably better than p.issing everyone off as May did.
  16. colacao17

    colacao17 Senior commenter

    It's a disease in modern politics. Governing by soundbite. What can't be said in a snappy soundbite of c.140 characters is ignored.
    Hence we have brexit means brexit, get brexit done etc, but the detail re trade, re the NI border, re jobs, health and basic services, agriculture, is more involved so isn't considered.
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  17. Ivartheboneless

    Ivartheboneless Star commenter

    I am more and more reminded of a certain senior political figure across the pond.
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  18. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Really? Do you have inside knowledge of what David Frost is intending to consider? (Just because something is not leaked to the press doesn't mean that it is not happening: however, the government will be publishing negotiation guidelines in the coming week, I believe, for those keen to know.)
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  19. oldsomeman

    oldsomeman Star commenter

    As a self-employed builder I had to learn to delegate. Failure to do so meant my firm never grew because I wanted to be doing all the work and be in charge of ALL decisions.
    Any good leader needs to delegate. Some of the best heads I ever worked for told you what they wanted and then told you to get on with it, you reported back and then any corrections where discussed and made.
    As to not understanding do we have evidence that this is correct. One of his present failings is laxity in telling folks what is going on. This is a serious failing as folks then accuse you of not doing anything as seen re why isn't Boris visiting the flooding, which in reality is only giving sympathy, meanwhile much of the money for the south of England flood defences has been moved to the North of England. So working in the background he is..but folks like the negative aspects as its easier to be vindictive of somebody in that way.
    Like a lot of writers on these forums.
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  20. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

    The two extremes in modern times maybe. He didn't exactly cover himself in glory during his brief spell as Foreign Secretary due to a lack of attention to detail. Dealing with other people's details as May did is one thing, but not paying attention to your own as Boris doesn't is also bad but in a different way.
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