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Primary PGCE / Secondary Drama

Discussion in 'Primary' started by pgceplease, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. <font size="2">hey there, i am having a similar problem (only i've not managed to get on a PGCE yet!! so OP well done for that!)</font><font size="2"> I was interviewed @ Warwick last year for Secondary Drama with English PGCE. My microteaching assessment went really well as did my written task...i totally failed the interview. I wasn't prepared and hadn't done enough research about my current educational issues.</font><font size="2"> </font><font size="2">It totally put me off and I decided that I wanted to teach Primary - for an easy life. Less marking, younger kids who won&rsquo;t give me abuse (the secondary school I went to was pretty horrendous with students taking drama as an easy option)....I have secured work experience at a local primary school that can run alongside my current fairly well paid job in HR....</font><font size="2"> </font><font size="2">However, as the time looms to apply again I'm starting to rethink my options</font><font size="2">1) I'm worried that there's less primary teaching positions available</font><font size="2">2) I'm worried that I have chosen primary for 'an easier life' when reading through the posts the role of a primary school teacher is just as hard as a secondary!</font><font size="2">3) Im worried that if I do re-chose Secondary Drama with English that Drama will be cut from the options.....and the new government will not see Drama as a worthy subject? </font><font size="2">4) One school only ever really needs 1 drama teacher so that cuts down my chances of gaining employment after</font><font size="2">5) some of my friends gained a place on the Drama PGCE @ Manchester and I know that I have considerably more experience than them...so I should be able to get on the course fairly easily....being that with the GTTR if you fail your 1st choice, then then send your 2nd choice and it's already full up by then and you have to wait a full year....</font><font size="2"> 6) I'm from the midlands so can move back to my parents to study but ideally i'd love to stay in Manchester...however if i do choose secondary then would it be better career wise to choose a PGCE in Drama AND English?</font> Can anyone advise on these worries!
     
  2. <font size="2">hey there, i am having a similar problem (only i've not managed to get on a PGCE yet!! so OP well done for that!)</font><font size="2"> I was interviewed @ Warwick last year for Secondary Drama with English PGCE. My microteaching assessment went really well as did my written task...i totally failed the interview. I wasn't prepared and hadn't done enough research about my current educational issues.</font><font size="2"> </font><font size="2">It totally put me off and I decided that I wanted to teach Primary - for an easy life. Less marking, younger kids who won&rsquo;t give me abuse (the secondary school I went to was pretty horrendous with students taking drama as an easy option)....I have secured work experience at a local primary school that can run alongside my current fairly well paid job in HR....</font><font size="2"> </font><font size="2">However, as the time looms to apply again I'm starting to rethink my options</font><font size="2">1) I'm worried that there's less primary teaching positions available</font><font size="2">2) I'm worried that I have chosen primary for 'an easier life' when reading through the posts the role of a primary school teacher is just as hard as a secondary!</font><font size="2">3) Im worried that if I do re-chose Secondary Drama with English that Drama will be cut from the options.....and the new government will not see Drama as a worthy subject? </font><font size="2">4) One school only ever really needs 1 drama teacher so that cuts down my chances of gaining employment after</font><font size="2">5) some of my friends gained a place on the Drama PGCE @ Manchester and I know that I have considerably more experience than them...so I should be able to get on the course fairly easily....being that with the GTTR if you fail your 1st choice, then then send your 2nd choice and it's already full up by then and you have to wait a full year....</font><font size="2"> 6) I'm from the midlands so can move back to my parents to study but ideally i'd love to stay in Manchester...however if i do choose secondary then would it be better career wise to choose a PGCE in Drama AND English?</font> Can anyone advise on these worries!
     
  3. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    You are joking, aren't you!
     
  4. Yes I am joking, hence why i'm rethinking now!
     
  5. CarrieV

    CarrieV Lead commenter

    Oh, that's all right then!
    I know absolutely nothing about prospects for Secondary drama teachers, however competition for primary training posts and jobs is fierce, a recent post I advertised attracted over 100 applicants and that is by no means uncommon-and in the North West it is even worse. So job prospects in primary are not good. You would need to check with secondary colleagues on your other options. But whichever you chose, you HAVE to want to do it. There is no point in starting something you don't want with a passion, this will certainly come across at interview and scupper your chances of a place. You need to decide which you really want to do and then go all out for it. This is the only way you will convince a prospective interviewer-at college or in employment-that you really know what you are letting yoursefl in for and that you are fully committed to it.
    Only you can decide where your heart lies, just go for it!
     
  6. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    1) Far fewer primary positions than there are teachers. Unless you are an excellent teacher AND your application stands out (for the right reasons) at all points, you have little chance of a post.
    2) You should be very worried if that is your reason. I trained as secondary maths and though I enjoy primary much, much more, secondary maths was much less work.
    3) Drama will never be a shortage subject. You are correct to be concerned on that score.
    4) Indeed you are correct, some schools have no drama specialists.
    5)More experience does not mean you will get a place. Showing keenness and commitment is what is required, along with a good understanding of what the course will involve.
    6) Drama and English will improve your chances of getting a job later, but there is no shortage of either.

    Unless you are absolutely sure you want to be a teacher, are keen to be the best teacher you can possibly be and are prepared to put in the enormous amount of work needed, then it is better that you choose a different career. Without all of those you will be here in a year or two saying you have no job and have wasted a year studying.
     
  7. lillipad

    lillipad New commenter

    I agree entirelly with Minnie's post. I was very shocked when i read 'for an easy life' - surely that is not a reason to go into ANY sort of teaching! There are thousands of excellent NQTs and qualified teachers who are unable to secure a teaching post and it really annoys me when people come in with that sort of attitude!!
     
  8. i meant this in jest....
     
  9. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    I choked when I read that part too, then I sensibly (makes a change, yes I know!) read the rest of the post before replying. Though, to be entirely honest, this thread and your other post I answered, don't fill me with confidence that you are serious about teaching. I think you need to really consider this carefully before applying again, it would be heartbreaking for you to be rejected again, but you don't really sound clear enough to be accepted.
     

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