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Primary PE Specialist (alternative to the ssco role) yorkshire

Discussion in 'Physical education' started by PE-Wilson, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. Hi, i am writing this post to see if any other PE teachers are in the same position as myself. I am wanting to make a transition from secondary to primary school teaching but want to be a PE specialist.

    I understand that most schools are too small to have a designated teacher for PE, so i have come up with an idea. I am thinking about writing to all the primary schools in the area to see whether any schools would be interested in taking on a specialist PE teacher for one or two days delivering all PE to all of the school. This would release teachers for PPA time and the subject they are not very good or most hate teaching.

    So i would maybe split between three schools but am unsure on how i would be paid for this.

    I feel this would take an alternative and more hands on approach than the SSCO initiative that is curently in progress.

    Please let me know what you think to this idea and where you think i should go from here.

    Also if there are any primary schools in north or west yorkshire that would like to pilot this idea then please contact me kevin-wilson@hotmail.co.uk
    or phone 07894329232

    Thanks for reading

    Kevin Wilson
     
  2. Hi, i am writing this post to see if any other PE teachers are in the same position as myself. I am wanting to make a transition from secondary to primary school teaching but want to be a PE specialist.

    I understand that most schools are too small to have a designated teacher for PE, so i have come up with an idea. I am thinking about writing to all the primary schools in the area to see whether any schools would be interested in taking on a specialist PE teacher for one or two days delivering all PE to all of the school. This would release teachers for PPA time and the subject they are not very good or most hate teaching.

    So i would maybe split between three schools but am unsure on how i would be paid for this.

    I feel this would take an alternative and more hands on approach than the SSCO initiative that is curently in progress.

    Please let me know what you think to this idea and where you think i should go from here.

    Also if there are any primary schools in north or west yorkshire that would like to pilot this idea then please contact me kevin-wilson@hotmail.co.uk
    or phone 07894329232

    Thanks for reading

    Kevin Wilson
     
  3. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    I think it's a good idea. Your likely response from the schools will be 'we'll bear you in mind' but at least you are making yourself known.

    I'm a SSCo but I also teach for one day in a state primary school covering PPA time.

    You could do with finding a school that is anti-SSCo (I'm sure there are a few out there!). Having a primary PE specialist is such a simple idea yet one that is not done.

     
  4. Hi

    Sorry i have only just seen your post and hope that you are sorted with teaching in primary. I am secondary PE trained and i am currently teaching in a primary school as a pe specialist covering ppa. The school are really pleased how it has worked out as the pe lessons are so different than before. There are at least 2 others junior schools that i know of that do the same. i only teach 2 1/2 days but the only problem is that i am guaranteed this year but who knows after that. Sorry for waffling on it was just to let you know that there are schools who see the advantage.
     
  5. There are jobs out there!!! I work as a full time teacher in my primary school as PE teacher/class teacher. I teach PE to all KS2 classes 3 afternoons a week and revert back to my own class during the other times. My head is very sport orientated and i'm a primary PE specialist, so its fantastic for both of us!!!
     
  6. Hi
    Hope you have a job? I studied Sports Science at degree but opted for primary teaching instead of taking an option I had for PGCE PE in secondary. Whilst I agree with you to a point about your idea, I worry that if all primary schools opt for specialist teachers (whether it be PE or other subjects) before long class teachers will only be teaching core subjects; losing valuable time to really engage with "their" class. I work in a school where science, numeracy and literacy are set, PE is covered by a coach during PPA, as is RE and Music. I feel like I don't even see some of my children!!!!! I have learnt that primary PE has as much to do with building relationships between teacher and pupils as it does with children learning sports skills.
    Yours
    Mickey
     
  7. stopwatch

    stopwatch Occasional commenter

    Have you considered working overseas? nearly all primary PE is taught by PE Specialists, many, for obvious reasons, are secondary trained.
    Other specialist lessons are also taught (Music, ICT, MFL etc) by specialist teachers. This gives class teachers PPA time.
    I see your point about building relationships and not having so much time with your children, but the main focus of PE is developing physical skills and abilities and promoting lifelong physical activity, not just as a vehicle for biulding relationships. This can be done at other times just as easily.
    I build good relationships with the primary children I teach even though I may only see them for 2 to 6 hours a week.
    From a teaching and learning aspect, having specialist teachers ensures children receive expert and high level teaching. In the upper levels of KS2 it is also good preparation for the transition to secondary school.
    Also, although many primary teachers enjoy PE with their classes, some hate this aspect of the timetable, particularly when the weather is bad, or if the teacher is not particularly comfortable with it (not everyone can be a jack of all trades) and this is picked up by the children.
     
  8. Hi

    I noticed that you are an SSCO and I have interview for an SSCO job this week. Was wandering if you have any advice on potential questions I may be asked?

    Thanks
     
  9. Hey, I am currently studying Primary Ed specialising in PE, currently in my second year.

    My ambition was to actualy do this, I would love to be able to teach PE across the key stage to all years.
    At first I thought it was just a mamouth dream, however I have been hearing alot more stories and realising that it was alot more common than I thought.
    I am now starting to wonder, as it seems a greater opportunity for me, what would I would need to do to make this a reality? Obvisously my PE specialism will help, but does anyone have any advice or knowledge of this?
    What things will help me? and make me and this approach more appealing to schools?
    Are there more courses that would assist or extra qualifacations?

    Thanks
    Dean
     
  10. stopwatch

    stopwatch Occasional commenter

    Private schools? Prep schools? Pre prep schools.
    Alternatively a much more pleasant and challenging option is to work overseas. Many areas of the world have very developed Primary PE in schools (see my previous comments above).
     
  11. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    Some schools recruit a 'sports coach'.
    If you look at most private schools they have 'PE time' and 'Games time'. It may be led by the same teacher, but two very different sessions.
    With sports coaches I worry that children are not getting their PE time. PE is many schools has become games. You can't have a games session without a PE session. No wonder many children are uncoordinated and unhealthy, we try to coach them in a sport before we have even taught them the basic fundamental skills. Some coaches only have a basic level 1 certificate, and there are many companies that will try and sell coaches to school at £20 per hour and upwards.
     
  12. I'm going to be looking for a PE specialist to work full time across a number of schools - based on the SSCo model but being able to work in primaries in a flexible manner. Not only looking at curriculum based work but also the delivery of the school games outcomes. If anyone knows of anyone looking in the West/South West London area email me ivesey001@aol.com I'm planning at the moment but looking to probably recruit during November.
     


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    Thanks very much for this comment. It help me to think about
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    Tks again and pls keep posting.
     


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  15. Hi , Hope it went well. Ive just discovered this when I googled primary specialist PE. Was wondering how you got on as Im thinking about doing exactly the samre in Cumbria. I have lots of contacts as have been the SSCO and teacher release but dont know how much to charge. I was thinking about &pound;40 per hour or &pound;140-60 a day...Is that too much? Little? what do you do about NI Tax and pension?
     
  16. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    There is one company, a very famous PPA one, that pays its staff &pound;40 a day.
     
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    gogojonny New commenter


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  18. My point exactly. No teaching experience needed, pre planned lessons with no knowledge of the children and differentiation for those children in your class who need it. I am passionate at race driving but doesn't mean to say good at it!
     
  19. gogojonny

    gogojonny New commenter

    The Unions should be looking at issueslike this - protecting the job opportunities for qualified PE teachers and ensuring high quality sessions for pupils, instead of faffing about with whatever it is they are moaning about now.
     
  20. just for your interests maybe for someone who is wanting to convert to primary doing pe and is in a secondary school now, i will be moving on from my current role as leader of PE at a primary school and we are looking to appoint a pe specialist but also will need to teach probably year 3 and 4 all the other subjects too e.g english maths science etc. A great opportunity for someone!
     

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