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PPA - Just curious!

Discussion in 'Primary' started by claire810, Jan 3, 2011.

  1. Does everyone in your school get the same amount of PPA?
    PPA time in the morning amounts to 3 hours (3 hours teaching time excluding play and daily assembly)
    PPA time in the afternoon is 2 1/4 hours (teaching time only 1 3/4 hours 3 times a week due to assemblies)
    I've never really thought much about it before but just realised why I always acheived so much more when my PPA is in the morning [​IMG]
     
  2. We all have ours on a Friday afternoon and go home!
     
  3. Seriously?! How many teachers leave? How many teachers/staff are left?
     
  4. Our morning PPA starts at 9.30 (although some teachers don't come into assembly in the morning if their ppa is on that day, so they manage an extra 15 minutes). 2 hrs 30
    Our afternoon PPA starts straight after lunch, 12.55 and runs until the end of the day at 3.15 so that is 2hrs 20.
    We used to swap and alternate each half term, but have since stuck to the times as 10 minutes doesn't make much difference. Plus, if you have pm ppa it is easy to continue working through into directed time after school as you don't have to pack away ready to teach in the afternoon. I prefer PM ppa now.
     
  5. It's a bit of a sore point. In our school you get allocated a slot which is either a 3 hour morning PPA slot, or a 2 hour afternoon PPA slot. Leaves people feeling rather disgruntled because the same people are often allocated the morning slots and an extra hour a week is obviously a significant amount more.
     
  6. The people at our place that I feel sorry for are those who are covered by the Head and a supply teacher. It is usually covered regularly, but there is always the possibility that something will come up and the head will have to change when the slot falls and the supply teacher hasn't always been the same person from week to week. Lack of continuity is not a good thing.
     
  7. minnieminx

    minnieminx New commenter

    Our morning slots are 3 hours, but some have to work some time at the end of the morning to make it 2.5 hours.
    Afternoon slots are 2 hours and in theory we get the extra time paid back in blocks every now and then. Some staff are good at claiming it back, some don't bother.

    I have afternoon and love it as I'd just waste the morning by staying in bed. Also I have year 6 and it is easier to give away a whole foundation subject to PPA cover than it is to leave maths and English. for me, losing 1/2 hour is more than worth it to get an afternoon slot! Also means I could go home early if I so chose.
     
  8. Fixed time every week either morning or afternoon. This is swapped each year so that year groups have 'fair share' of the longer morning PPA.
     
  9. There are only 4 teachers to start with! 3 of them always go home, I tend to stay around and do all the "bits and pieces" that never get done! The Head is there ( and if she isn't, I definitely stay!) All the TA's are there (4 of them) and we have PE, art and music specialists in. The children are split into small groups and carousel around PE, music, dance, art and cooking-with a couple of other activities thrown in too!
     
  10. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    1 day per fortnight, allowed to work from home if you want to but a workroom is provided if you don't. Equates to more than the 10% entitlement and staff are allowed to make appointments in that time if they want to, if itvmakes their life easier.
     
  11. Everyone has afternoon, but the annoying thing this year is that I have Monday afternoon so I lose it every beginning of term as we have an inset day at the beginning of most terms.
     
  12. We aren't allowed to go home either.
     
  13. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    If it falls on inset or bank holiday ppa should be moved. Although in theory your head could make it 10% of 4 days, I've never known a head do this.
     

  14. So it would end up costing the school additional PPA cover for a week when INSET or bank holidays fall?
     
  15. tangerinecat

    tangerinecat New commenter

    At my last school the morning PPA people got three hours, the afternoon PPA people got 2 1/2 hours. Like a previous poster, the same people always got the morning session. Our most vocal teacher questioned this, and was shot down in flames by the HT who thought it was "very petty to quibble about half an hour."
    I don't even know when my PPA time is in my new job, but it seems most people take it at home, as there is nowhere to work in school.
     
  16. I get an hour when someone else teaches PE, an hour on a Friday afternoon and half hour or slightly less when the kids have hymn practice in the hall. I do not like having it in bits because as soon as I get stuck into something it is time to teach again!
     
  17. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    you're entitled to 10% of your teaching time, the teacher who takes your usual ppa should be asked to reschedule. It should be accounted for when the budget is set.
     
  18. Elsie Teacher

    Elsie Teacher New commenter

    Yep. One day a fortnight at home.
     
  19. WolfPaul

    WolfPaul New commenter

    Surely one day per fortnight is exactly 10%?
     
  20. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    6 hours, whereas teaching time is 5. So slightly more. Also 8 x 15 minute assemblies so in total 8 hours non contact per fortnight
     

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