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Post UPS Scale

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by evivyover, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. evivyover

    evivyover New commenter

    Hi all,

    What happens to your pay after two Years on UPS 3. Is there another threshold you need to go through? Do you stay with no pay rise? Do you go to l scale?

    Thank you
     
  2. strawbs

    strawbs Established commenter

    (assuming your school follows same labeling conventions of national pay scales)
    UPS3 is the top..you just stay there forever and ever....
     
    lardylegs likes this.
  3. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    Once you get to the top of UPS pay range in your school that's it. That's the maximum pay for a classroom teacher (on STPCD anyway - academies can invent any pay ranges they want to). The only increases you will get in future are what the DFE laughably calls 'cost of living' increases in the UPS range. Which the school doesn't have to pass on anyway.

    There are higher paid posts of course - Leading Practitioner (if your school has them) and Leadership posts - but they are different jobs that you'd have to apply for if and when the school advertises a vacancy. You can't transfer onto those pay scales and stay as a full time classroom teacher.
     
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  4. evivyover

    evivyover New commenter

    Thanks for that. I thought it was something like that but wasn't too sure.

    Thanks again
     
  5. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Many jobs have a maximum salary, which may or may not be published, so this is not unusual. In other fields, you need to be promoted to get more, which could involve applying for jobs elsewhere. It is probable that TLRs will become available if you want to earn more.

    By the way, I think every teacher for whom it applies should have a copy of STPCD and a reasonable idea of what is in it. That would answer this and many other questions. It pays to know your rights!
     
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  6. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    Once upon a time, there was a 9 point scale (or 10? did it start at 0?), most people started at point 2, moved up by one point each year, and the complaint was that after 7 years, that was it - your pay would only increase if you took on management responsibilities.
    Then they introduced the upper pay scale, another five scale points. Once you'd been at the top of the 9 point scale for two years, you could apply to move onto the upper scale, and gradually move up that.
    Then they decided to condense the main scale so that people could get to the upper pay scale more quickly. They also condensed the upper pay scale to 3 points.

    So what have we got now? A nine-point pay scale, which you move up more slowly than the original one, if you're lucky.

    Has anyone done the index-linking to see whether the points actually pay any better than what we started with?
     
  7. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Or at least, that is what we have, and some people still have. But the rules have now changes so that you are on either the Main or Upper Pay Range, with just an official maximum and minimum specified. Many schools have stuck with the 9 points and some have added an extra one by having M6a and M6b. However, there is nothing to stop them having as many or as few points as they like, or even just giving each teacher a salary each year, which is what I was used to before teaching.
     

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