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portuguese twins starting on tuesday - HELP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Early Years' started by Spice0012, Sep 15, 2007.

  1. Spice0012

    Spice0012 New commenter

    As the title suggests. I've got twins starting in my Year One on tuesday morning, Girl and Boy and niether them or there parents speak English. The older cousin does speak some English but lives/works up North, so he can't help me.
    Has anyone got any advice because I have attempted to speak to my Head about this and he isn't interested - they are bums on seats which means money to him. I have their reports from their previous school but they are in portuguese!!!!!
    I know nothing of the education, language or culture of Portugal?????
    Please Help!!!!!
     
  2. Spice0012

    Spice0012 New commenter

    As the title suggests. I've got twins starting in my Year One on tuesday morning, Girl and Boy and niether them or there parents speak English. The older cousin does speak some English but lives/works up North, so he can't help me.
    Has anyone got any advice because I have attempted to speak to my Head about this and he isn't interested - they are bums on seats which means money to him. I have their reports from their previous school but they are in portuguese!!!!!
    I know nothing of the education, language or culture of Portugal?????
    Please Help!!!!!
     
  3. you need to speak to your senco...there should be specialised service/teAchers within the LA that provide support ( english as a second language/additional language ESL/EAL)
     
  4. Spice0012

    Spice0012 New commenter

    thanks for your reply but sadly our SENCO is off on maternity leave for 12mths and most of the teachers in my school are NQT's or staff with 1/2 years expereince therefore not much help. I have thought of emailing the Portuguese embassy in London for advice on previous education, translation and basic Portuguese words for labels etc - at the moment I feel so nerious of failing these children.
     
  5. but you must have a senco...surely someone has taken on this role during the absence...how can requirements of statments be carried out...we have had similar and a parent has just reported the lack of senco to the LA..she was told that it is a legal requirement for all schools to have a named senco ( not sure how right this is)...has this role been handed over temporarily to the head?
     
  6. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

  7. Not that it's any help, but we have just applied to our LEA EAL support team (prefer not to say what area) for help with a flood of Polish speakers only to be told that the service is swamped and they cannot take on any more referrals at present!
     
  8. Msz

    Msz Established commenter

    penas ~ pens
    lápis ~ pencils
    eliminador ~ rubber
    livros ~ books
    janela ~ window
    porta~ door
    mesa ~ desk
    cadeira ~ chair
    professor ~ teacher
     
  9. Spice,

    My parents live in Portugal and I go there for most of the summer every year. If there is anything in particular you want to know just email me and I will try to find out. I know a little portuguese but only enough to get me by on holiday but my mum does speak it fluently.

    My email address is susanirnsd@hotmail.com

    I know they dont start formal education until they are older (6 or 7) but many do attend nursery.

    nao fale portuguese - I dont speak portuguese
    hola is hello (don't pronounce the h)
    bom dia - good morning
    boa tarde - good afternoon
    obrigada is thank you
    se fache favor is please
    andacar is come here

    I will try to find out some other words you might find useful.
     
  10. Hi

    I work at a school where we have a lot of EAL children from many different backgrounds 22 different languages at the last count! My experience has been the children pick it up really quickly just from communicating through signs and lots of hand gestures from other children in the class. We give them buddies to look after them in class and in the playground. We work on pictures of essentials like toilet and give them the english word. Lots of trial and error involved and lots of speaking and listening activities. Good luck!
     
  11. Would 2nd previous post. We have lots of Polish speakers in our school. Whilst it's my first year having them in my class, it's not as bad as you think. Already they are picking up the routines of the day. When I speak to them, I use tone of voice more than with the other children and gesture to what I want them to do. When they do it, I give them a thumbs up (nearly spelled that with an f) and lots of praise so it's very obvious that I'm pleased. good luck though.
     
  12. I have a portugese child starting in Nursery - parents are supposed to be giving me a list of english/portugese key words (like toilet, numbers to 20, car, train) so I can post these when I get them.

    Good Luck x
     
  13. Spice0012

    Spice0012 New commenter

    Thanks for all your replies and sorry for the delay in replying. Thje twins have settled fine (better than another new girl who started!!) their cousin has joined them but just for this week. He has taught them a few english words like toilet, drink etc) The twins are very confident and have been repeating any english words said to them. I have made a little keyring of pictures/visual aids for them to use at lunchtimes so they can express their needs to the dinnerladies - unsure if this correct thing to do?
    We have been told my the LA that it is not a set rule that every school has a SENCO. So our head has taken the role and it not interested in the hassle, paperword and duties that come with the role! I have asked if i can keep the children out of assembly so we can complete extra speeching and listen activities - learning colours, sounds and self help words, is this the normal thing to do.
    The only other concern i have is communicating to there parents as they do not speech english and i don't speak portuguese?.
     
  14. I am glad for you that they are settling well and seem keen and happy. However I do think it sounds as if your head is passing the buck and making you do all the work. If s/he is SENCO then they should be supoprting YOU and providing you with information or telling you where to find things to help these chidlren (and any other EAL ones).
    Our SENCO is fab, she is only in 2 days a week but she is so helpful and takes children out if necessary. We also have EAL support for 2 days per week and she takes groups/individuals out if they need it.

    Lucy

    ps. Surely it should be someone to do with EAL and nor SEN who is supporting you - the children do not have special needs just because they cannot speak English!
     
  15. Hi Spice,

    I am a Brit currently living in Portugal, and actually attending university here (in my second year). I am fluent in Portuguese and English, and also helped some Portuguese students who knew very little English to become settled in my local schools, as no one else seemed to be able to speak Portuguese. If you want any help or translations of anything for the parents, just email me and I will be more than willing to help :D

    Jason
     
  16. inky

    inky Lead commenter

    How old are they?
     
  17. Spice0012

    Spice0012 New commenter

    The twins are 6 in feb next year. they have been attending at state pre-school when in Portugal.
    Thank you for the offer of translation I will email closer to parents evening - thanks again.
     
  18. Hey Jason,
    This is Joao from Portugal,
    We met in Lisbon, When we were both living on that residence for students in Rato!
    I'm pretty sure you remember me,
    I've been trying to contact you for the last 4 years & I bet you've changed your email,
    cause I've wrote you about 4 emails and I never got the reply!
    I'm hoping and praying you'll get this message, if you do please contact me on my email:
    joaopegado87@hotmail.com;
    or add me on facebook: Joao Pegado!
    I really need to speak to you, in case you're not interested on doing that, at least be abble to listen to what I have to say to you!
    In case you never receive this, I'll try my hardest to find you ;)
    A huge hug for you,
    Joao
     

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