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Discussion in 'Personal' started by Bonnie23, Sep 9, 2017.

  1. Bonnie23

    Bonnie23 Occasional commenter


    I hope your first week back hasn't been too manic. This is no means a worry or a dilemma, just a simple wondering and the opportunity for a friendly discussion.

    Earlier in the week I had to talk to my tutor group about a few piercings I'd seen pop up. Our school rules are that they are allowed two studs in their ears, the school is a bit lenient on this for example you can have an upper ear piercing and one other or two studs in the lobes, but no more than that - basically no more than two pieces of jewellery in the ear.

    However doing this I felt quite hypocritical. I have my lobes pierced twice and two other piercings, giving six piercings in total. I was interviewed with my piercings in, I was hired with them in and they have never been questioned at the school.

    What are your views? Should teachers be allowed piercings? Tattoos? (I have none on show at any point). Should students be allowed to have piercings if they want them?
  2. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Thankfully, I don't live and work in such a petty-minded environment. Some adults never grew up and are fixated on appearance. They're shallow people but you can't tell by looking at them.
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  3. Flere-Imsaho

    Flere-Imsaho Star commenter

    Presumably you don't have to follow all the rules the pupils do. Why does this one feel hypocritical and not others?
  4. Bonnie23

    Bonnie23 Occasional commenter

    An interesting point - possibly because other parts of my appearance follow the same sort of rules, smart clothing, natural looking hair colour, etc.
  5. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Just another brick in the wall.
  6. schoolsout4summer

    schoolsout4summer Star commenter

    [QUOTE="Jude Fawley, post: 12220297, member: 489237
    "Some adults never grew up and are fixated on appearance".
    Quite so. However, if they are schoolteachers, who influence and act as role models for impressionable youngsters, you can easily spot them because they will often sport red tinted hair, tattoos and/or piercings - all completely inappropriate for a school teacher in a school setting.
  7. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    You are an adult not a child and as such do not have to follow the same rules as the children.
  8. Bonnie23

    Bonnie23 Occasional commenter

    This seems to be bit of an extreme point...
  9. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter

    Say the adults. But they still keep having them.
  10. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    What? children or rules :confused:
  11. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    No one has ever commented on the bolt through my neck.
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  12. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

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  13. Jude Fawley

    Jude Fawley Star commenter


    The real issue of course is the negation of care. The powers that be make an issue of appearance because they are concerned about bullying but, by flagging up appearance, they create an atmosphere ripe for bullying.

    If the adults showed some intelligence they wouldn't make any fuss over appearance and, over time, 'the problem' would disappear.

    Basically, the adults create a problem where there shouldn't be one. If only the last generation of adults hadn't carried it over, the next generation of adults wouldn't be so 'child like' in the sense of the 'child like' attitude.

    It's probably because the adults were bullies as children and were never free of the oppressive attitude exhibited by adults. They see the adult oppress the kid and think "we'll oppress the kid" to keep with the norm.
  14. magic surf bus

    magic surf bus Star commenter

    When Popeye was at high school he was allowed tattoos:

    But it was a different time back then.

    Kids have different school rules to adults - they always have.
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  15. Dunteachin

    Dunteachin Star commenter

    I like to be outrageous and not follow the norm - so I don't have any tattoos!
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  16. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    I'm an old fossil so have rather old fashioned rules about dress. No extremes!!! I was told that I should show that my clothes should reflect the semi-formal setting of a school and, therefore, should not look like a refugee from a festival or as though I was going to a royal garden party.

    During my career, I watched standards change and I was not in favour of spaghetti strap tops and plastic flip flops. Sorry, no!! Tattoos no!!

    As I wrote, no extremes!!

    (I'll run and hide now!!)
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  17. Dunteachin

    Dunteachin Star commenter

    Not old fashioned, Dragon. Just professional.
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  18. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    I have a tattoo, albeit small, which is pretty hard to conceal, and kids have asked on numerous occasions "is it actually a real tattoo?". There always follows the questions-is it for ever? Did it hurt? What did it cost? How old were you when you got it? Why that image in particular? What did your mum say? (heh heh!). Once or twice I've been sagely informed by a Year 7 "ah, you do realise you're not gonna get that off, don't you?" Harumph, it's surely not that ugly, kiddo? Sometimes if the timing of questions is wrong, I have said "I'll tell you later after we've finished this work, come back to me and ask at break time" and of course they never do. I'm sure there are a few readers of this post who have experienced similar tattoo interest..
    From this experience I'd say that actually it is not completely appropriate to have an obvious tattoo as a teacher, although mine is somewhat mitigated by being small. My reasoning is that the questions are obviously based around them imagining themselves going through the same process. They ask with awe, they never ask in disgust, and then when they get their answers you can see them mulling over what they have learned. They may have parents who are against them ever getting tattooed, and clearly here is a teacher who contravenes that standard, who is also respected by them and seen as a specialist in their subject. In effect, what you are doing as a teacher with a tattoo is busting a few parental myths, and certainly from a parental point of view, that's not desirable.
    The flip side is that you are also teaching them that tattooed people are not necessarily demons or lowlife or deviant self piquerists which is something I feel might be held by the occasional parent.
    Whatever, far worse than teachers with tattoos is that Gawdawful show "Tattoo Fixers", in that a whole (generally gaudy and hideous) sleeve of gothic skulls and ridiculous A Level Art standard serpents is show to be chosen in the space of a few seconds. That's so wrong. Not the shart picture per se, but the lack of careful decision. The show ought to be banned, although I do enjoy watching plebs who've got sozzled in Ibiza and had, say, a crude pair of bazookas tattooed on their forehead-heh heh.
    Teachers, be careful when red-wining in Ibiza.
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  19. Dragonlady30

    Dragonlady30 Star commenter

    D'oh!!! Ta Dunty! :)
  20. Dunteachin

    Dunteachin Star commenter

    I'm not against tattoos. Each to their own. I won't have one because I'd get sick to death of looking at it day after day, knowing it's there forever.
    And, if you can't see your tattoo, because it's on your buttock or wherever - well, why have it done in the first place, then?

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