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PGDE Extra Placement

Discussion in 'Scotland - Primary' started by LouT88, Jun 29, 2013.

  1. Hi, just looking for a bit of advice. I have been doing my PGDE in Primary Teaching for this past year, and was doing really well until my last placement which I have recently finished. I was in a composite P1/2 class. During this placement I really struggled for various reasons and didn't receive much support, and as a result I failed my tutor visit, despite having passed my first two placements well. This means I have to do an extra 'retrieval' placement in August/September instead of starting my probation year. Obviously I was really disappointed with this as i'd really been looking forward to starting in August with my own class, and now won't get to do this until August 2014. My confidence took a real knock during this last placement, with the negative nature of comments from my tutor and teacher, so much so that as much as I love teaching and really want to do it, i'm not sure whether or not I should go back in August for this extra placement as I don't know if i'm capable :(

    Just looking for a bit of advice, is there anyone out there who has been in a similar position? I know teaching is what I really want to do but just feel that after last placement I don't know if I can do it.

    Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
  2. I was in exactly the same position a few years ago, it turns out it could have been the best thing that could have happened! I did my extra placement at a very supportive school, and passed with no problems at all! I then volunteered in different schools to get extra experience, then joined the supply list. I was really lucky to get full time supply for the summer term, which meant that going into my probationary year, I was used to the hours and workload. After my probationary year I gained full time, permanent employment which I really put down to gaining that extra experience before my probationary year.

    Please don't be too downheartened, take it as extra time that will really help you in the long term!

    Hope this helps!
  3. Hi,

    I completely understand your predicament, however I would advise you to go back and complete your placement. Having no support, an awkward teacher etc.. It impacts your thoughts and makes you feel like maybe this isn't for you anymore. That's exactly how I felt when I failed my first placement. The teacher was very unsupportive, she did not like PGDE's which made my time at the school very difficult. In front of heads, she would act like she was helping, however when it actually came to helping she left me on my own. I wanted to quit completing the PGDE course at that time, except my family were amazing and encouraged me not to give up because of one school/teacher. For my second placement, I was a bit skeptical, however went in with a clear and positive attitude and done really, really well. My teacher, school, support staff were all amazing. This allowed me to concentrate, be creative which makes a huge impact on your teaching. When the tutor came out to see my, she was trying so hard to fault me but actually could not because I had amazing support.

    In short my advice..... DONT GIVE UP...... not all teachers/schools are the same! I prefer KS1, so if you need any advice or help feel free to email me, and I'll be happy to help.

  4. Hi

    Please do your placement and finish. You have had a difficult time but you can get through it with a supportive school and teacher. We have had someone in our school on a retrieval placement and they passed with flying colours.

    They went on the supply list and worked pretty much full time until their probation year was starting. They are now in full time employment.

    Good luck

  5. Thanks for all your comments! Very supportive and the wee extra boost I needed to stay positive. Deep down I know that teaching is what I want to do, and having done well on my other placements I know i'm not a complete failure, it's just so disheartening to fail at the final hurdle! But I know I would end up regretting it if I wasn't to go back and complete the retrieval placement. Thanks again for your encouraging stories!
  6. Hi,

    I am in exactly the same situation as you. However, I am a secondary student.

    I comfortably passed my first 2 placements, but failed my final placement. On my final placement (the same school as my middle placement) I received little support from my mentor and assumed that I was progressing successfully due to not receiving any negative feedback or areas of concern. Then my tutor visited, I had a bad lesson (muck up day contributed to this) and my mentor started raising all these issues with my tutor (I had not been informed of any of them and some of them I didn't agree with).

    Anyway, now I am sitting my retrieval placement in 2 weeks time. I am very nervous about this. I have always been quite confident in front of the class but I feel this will not be the case any more. I just remind myself that you can't let one bad experience rule your life though. I am taking this opportunity to show everyone that I can do it and become a good teacher.

    I hope this helps you realise that you're not alone - in fact I have heard of lots of similar situations.
  7. Ablythe02

    Ablythe02 New commenter

    Just out of curiosity - how did your retrieval go? I am in the exact same position just now and feeling the same way!
  8. morrisseyritual

    morrisseyritual Occasional commenter

    UNION, UNION, UNION - Be it EIS or SSTA, join a union. they can put the dampeners on whimsical/narcissistic headteachers and PTs.

    I was exactly where you are now on my secondary teacher placement - unsupportive school, headteacher that thought all probationers should be "oven ready" and I appealed to the college for mitigating circumstances. I felt defenceless, low, believed the tripe that constituted my feedback from my failed placement when all it boiled down to was that my face simply didn't fit - I wasn't perfect but I was no failure as a teacher.

    Please join or consult/ at least make contact with the union rep in your new placement and chat about your case for advice.
    Gavster77 likes this.
  9. Hennyb13

    Hennyb13 New commenter

    I am a secondary probationer & have had a particularly difficult time at my school. Things were not too bad up until Xmas when my department left me stranded in Glasgow at 1.30am with no possibility of getting a taxi for 3 hours. We had travelled in together & had arranged to go home together & despite askibg me if I was coming 5 minutes before we were due yo leave, they left in our taxi without me. I had to walk 3 miles in the dark on my own to reach a 24 hr Tesco where I could wait in safety. As a single woman on my own, I felt this was shocking & it made me feel very unwanted & unvalued as a member of the department. Then a further incident occurred where information about me was left lying by my PT on her desk. I inadvertently picked it up & was totally shocked by comments she had written which evidently came from pupils during a "Learner conversation" . This was in breach of data protection yet her response was that, as PT, she could do whst dhe wanted! Things have gone downhill since then & despite having a positive Xmas report & positive learning observations the department in March has raised a cause for concern, saying my behaviour management/classroom organisation does not meet the standards & that they csn't see evidence of my professional reading in my lessons!!! ... bit strange since my last observation was in January. I get little support, have 12 different classes in 6 different classrooms & share a number of classes with different teachers ... all been very unsettling. They also gave me 7 classes in a row on a Monday & told me that that was the life of a teacher!!! They have now, with 5 or so weeks left until my final report is written, decided It is unlikely that I'll be finishing with full registration in May but that theywill recommend I do a 12 week extension. I am getting little support & my mentor is my PT so she makes all the decisions & writes my report. I feel there is no-one for me. It is a form of bullying as I feel excluded & isolated. Has anyone had a similar experience???

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