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Petition re pay for long term supply and support staff

Discussion in 'Supply teaching' started by Jazztess79, Mar 20, 2020.

  1. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

  2. Popple83

    Popple83 New commenter

    Signed, thanks for sharing this.
  3. ms honey

    ms honey Occasional commenter

    Signed and shared, thanks
  4. cathr

    cathr Occasional commenter

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  5. flyuplife

    flyuplife New commenter

    Signed. Please distribute and share it as much as possible.
    pepper5 likes this.
  6. sbkrobson

    sbkrobson Star commenter

    Whilst I have signed the petition I don't actually find it very persuasively put.
    The nub is that many school staff, in particular supply on long term contract have had to be shockingly severed and this leaves them reeling.
    However, the righting of this cannot be simply a demand to make good financial loss, which is how the petition appears. On this front, it is poorly worded.
    What ought to be petitioned for is for schools to continue to utilise staff and supply them with work they can do remotely, in return for commensurate pay. The obvious one is to be involved with distance learning, but of course that is already mostly allocated to permanent staff. I guess looking beyond that, there are still a million things that agency staff can do for a school-compiling resources, admin back up, whatever.
    I don't think it is a reasonable expectation to say "pay me" without saying "I am still here for you" and that is very obviously missing from the petition, which is a shame.
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  7. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    Thank you for signing. I understand what you are saying and agree to some extent. I didn’t read it that way tbh but from my experience everybody is asking what they can do to help.

    Despite having my long term supply role cancelled as of yesterday, I left saying that I would do anything I could to help now or in the future; and that was not with a request to be paid but with empathy towards my former colleagues, pupils and their families. In twenty five years as a teacher, I’ve never experienced the sense of futility, confusion and sadness within a school community as has been the case in the last few days.

    Along with so many others, I am now desperately hunting for alternative work (and worrying about elderly parents) whilst wondering how bills will be paid.
    In these surreal times, everybody has their own stories and worries.

    Obviously, that is only my own personal experience and opinion and in no way whatsoever intended to undermine anybody else’s.
  8. Supplygirl111

    Supplygirl111 New commenter

    Maybe this petition should cover the government helping day to day supply aswell,
    I have worked everyday (minus half terms) since September and been in many schools repeatedly.
    I earned between £300-480 a week and now nothing and im sure there are loads of supply in the same boat.
    Not sure if this government job retention scheme applies to us but i dont think day-to-day supply should be forgotten about.
    We are all equally important and school's rely on us. We are a vital part of education and the government should be providing some support to us.
    gold19951, pepper5, Mrs-Pip and 4 others like this.
  9. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    I agree. Thinking of you.
    gold19951 and pepper5 like this.
  10. tonymars

    tonymars Established commenter

    Yes indeed supply girl. I received an email from "payroll support" of my main agency this morning, saying basically we will contact you when we have worked out the implications of the chancellor's announcement yesterday.

    I wish someone could explain the situation clearly
  11. cathr

    cathr Occasional commenter

    I signed the petition. The system flashed a message and a link to notify my MP about the petition. I followed that and took the opportunity to ask him what was being done for day to day supply teachers.
    We shall see...
    Incidentally, last time I contacted my MP was about medical costs incurred abroad. I got an acknowledgement of my request very quickly from said MP and within weeks I got the money back I was due which I had been told by NHS would take months. I look forward to hearing what he has to say about our issue!
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  12. AdetheRare

    AdetheRare New commenter

    I'm not entirely sure why this petition isn't for ALL supply staff, not just long term ones.

    That way, it'd get around all the despicable management practices of dumping anyone they can to avoid paying them when they dare to get sick, or things like this happen. The petition only works if schools don't just immediately terminate your employment, which they'll do just to avoid the paperwork; there's no reason for them to not do that.
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  13. schoolsout4summer

    schoolsout4summer Star commenter

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  14. ms honey

    ms honey Occasional commenter

    Just recieved an email from my umbrella company

    "The Chancellor announced on Friday 20th March that they would be introducing an employee retention scheme for workers who are unable to work due to the Corona Virus
    It is our understanding and the advice from our specialists the FCSA that this will be eligible for Umbrella workers"

    they went on to say it might be to the end of April until payments, and details are unknown but it looks promising.
    gold19951 likes this.
  15. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    Thanks for sharing Ms Honey, fingers crossed!
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  16. jackwest

    jackwest New commenter

    Not to dampen enthusiasm for future payments at 80% of norm, but an extract from an email just received from my teaching agency suggests any such payment, even in its reduced version, is very unlikely! Ever hopeful however!

    ‘As we find ourselves in unsettling and uncertain times, we know that securing work whilst Schools are closed may or may not be a priority of yours.

    However, we want to let you know that we are working in the background to support education staff who find themselves without work and therefore without an income during School closures. Not only that, we can't take our foot off of the gas as we need to be as prepared as possible to ensure that we can provide schools with all of the support they need when they reopen’.

    Please no reference to agencies milking the current crisis, we all still need to make a living!......surely?
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  17. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    An extract from an email received from my supply agency:

    Will I get paid if schools close to reduce the risk of infection?

    If you are a supply worker who works on daily and short-term bookings, unfortunately you may not be entitled to receive any pay if the schools are closed as there will be no work available.

    If you are in a long-term supply booking and the school you are placed in closes, it is at the school's discretion whether or not to pay for those days.

    Supply teachers and the 80% salary scheme

    Following the government’s announcement on Friday 20 March 2020 about the employment and wage subsidy package being put in place amid the coronavirus pandemic, we have already received a number of enquiries from concerned supply staff. Please be assured that we are trying to clarify what this package means for all supply staff and we will, of course, communicate this to you once further information is given by the government.

    Government's support packages are moving very quickly and we’re trying to clarify what this means for supply teachers and support staff and whether they are covered by the new scheme. We too want to understand what this means in practice for self-employed, agency staff or those on zero hours contract. The truth is at the moment we just don’t know, but we are trying to find out. As soon as we know we will keep you updated.


    It is essential that you are fully aware of your eligibility for state benefits; we would strongly recommend that you use either the Entitled to benefits calculator or the Turn2Us version. (https://www.entitledto.co.uk/) or (https://benefits-calculator.turn2us.org.uk/AboutYou)

    Both are free to use and you can print or save your results.

    You can apply for Universal Credit here. (https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit)
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  18. ms honey

    ms honey Occasional commenter

    Trouble is how can we apply for anything when we don't know what we're going to get from the government,I think we'd be told to wait, unless anyone needs emergency funds.
  19. Jazztess79

    Jazztess79 New commenter

    Exactly. Nobody knows - unchartered territory. Personally, I’m going to try to hang fire for a couple of days in the hope that the government will have been able to explain what they envisage happening.
    ms honey likes this.
  20. steviepal

    steviepal Occasional commenter

    Apply now. Today. Sort things out later if you get any money to cover loss of earnings.

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