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People who cannot spell should not be allowed to teach - including those with 'learning disabilities'

Discussion in 'Behaviour' started by anniebaker, Dec 8, 2005.

  1. I agee. Bad speling is totaly inapropriate. I lef shool in 1980. We were forced to doo speling tests al off the time, and it asn't done me no arm
     
  2. I have "reasonable" spelling skills but often make mistakes due to tiredess, workload or just forgetting letter order in complex words.

    As an English Teacher I always make a point of bringing a really thick dictionary into class. I use this to illustrate to those students beating themselves up about their poor spelling, how much there is to remember and how unrealistic it is to be so hard on ourselves for not remembering it all accurately. Especially bearing in mind that even the dictionary will not have every word in it. Once people recognise that, they might be a little bit more tolerant of themselves and others.

    I agree that people with very poor literacy skills are unsuited to teaching academic subjects but in all honesty they are unlikely to complete their training if their skills are that bad.
     
  3. I wonce toke a dictionery into my clas. It as relly improved the standards in my clasrom, and I am a beeter teacher for it.
     
  4. When I was at school, we had a very talented, very helpful, very open, very thoughtful and very time giving Technology teacher - he was also an extremely young head of department. Our Technology group got very good results, considering the tramps we had in the class! Ha-sorry! He couldn't spell to save his life and I always used to correct him - not in a negative way, he was glad of the help: he used to call it an 'identified training opportunity'......he's now a successful deputy head of a 1200 secondary specialist college,aged 30!
     
  5. yes post 42 ......
    U've done well ..........
    super duper ..... rock on .....

    don't get hung up on spelling, let peepsy P guide u and teach u .......

    good ...... we chat later people !!
     
  6. I have a neurological condition with similar effects to dyslexia that severely effects my articulation, particularly with written English. I'm also epileptic, which can effect my speech clarity at times. I'm a primary trainee and specialise in English. I've just got straight firsts in coursework. I've been selected by my university to represent them in their Ofsted inspections. I've never had a problem whilst in the classroom and been praised on how effective a teacher I am. Yet I should not be allowed to teach?
    When people say that I shouldn't be teaching, it riles me. I know how challenging literacy skills can be to some pupils, for a range of reasons. I understand their perspective and I think it makes me a better teacher.
    But that's my opinion :) I can appreciate how it could concern others.
     
  7. So not only do you have to put the thread on Opinion. You have to put it on other forums - you sill cow!
     
  8. You silly cow!
     
  9. Very helpful comment Miss Eng.
     
  10. My pleasure Ceinwyn!
     
  11. 'People who cannot spell should not be allowed to teach including those with learning disabilities.'

    You are going to deprive students of specialist teaching in many subject areas if you were to hold to this theory.
    I've never yet met an art teacher who could spell, science teachers seem to have unreadable handwriting and expressive arts staff are so jolly they never say anything negative about students. This makes target setting tricky.
    Where would you draw the line?
     
  12. What an ignorant comment. I can't spell but as long as i don't spell words wrong when im teaching does that make me a bad teacher? no it doesn't. i keep a dictonary with me at all times and i know its a problem for me. We are not good at everything, we all have our strenghths and weaknesses. It is a problem if your not aware of it.

    On the other hand.
    As a student i spelt a word wrong during an observation lesson and was told if i did it again i would fall my teaching practice!1
     
  13. This thread has been discussed to death on Opinion.
     
  14. EXCUSE ME WHAT ABOUT THE TEACHER WHO HAS DYSLEXIA !!!!!!
    WE ARE HUMAN JUST LIKE YOU!!!
     
  15. News fresh in... You can actually 'catch' poor spelling. Those who work in special needs will understand the urgent desire to put an h in the word want. Long moments spent looking at a word that 'doesn't look right.' The dictionary will confirm that it is correct but it looks weird. I didn't have a problem with spelling when I went into teaching but it's all rather rocky now.

    On the bright side I can tell the department a teacher works in by just looking at the handwriting. I have 80% accuracy.
     
  16. Cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

    The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

    FOr all the pedantic spellers....hope non of them are overweight uncoordinated primary teachers who have to teach PE
     
  17. post 38
    here here!

    Surely that should be hear hear!

    Post 2 - surely mistakes, not misStakes?



     
  18. As there are a great many dyslexic science teachers (Three quarters of the department in one school I taught in - especially pysicists. The HOD, the most amazing, charismatic teacher, included), banning bad spellers would cause the most almighty science teacher shortage.

    This is an interesting quote I found, which I couldn't have put better:
    "Many famous scientists and thinkers are thought to have been dyslexic, such as Leonardo da Vinci, Albert Einstein, Alexander Graham Bell and Thomas Edison to name just a few. Stephen Hawkins considers himself as dyslexic and thinks that dyslexia caused him problems at school.

    Dyslexia is by no means a recipe for a successful scientist and the majority of scientists are not dyslexic, however many dyslexic scientist view their dyslexia in a positive light and feel it helps them in science."

    Me again:
    Many of the best artists, designers, songwriters, entrepreners, actors etc. are dyslexic. The way the dyslexic brain works seems to give an 'edge' to many creative people's thinking. So again, banning these people from teaching - still a good idea?

    I have always found that I can get round any problems with spelling. Firstly, and most importantly, I found that being up-front with the pupils helped. I would say that sometimes my spelling is a bit wobbly so I would not be offended if I was corrected. I would check any akward spellings in my plans, or if caught on the spot and still uncertain, just think of another word to write. I have had a spell checker on the desk, so quickly punch in the offending word.
     
  19. I am quite shocked by the things that I have read. I strongly believed that as a teacher you have to be able to spell. You are the one who will be teaching children how to write/spell, whether you are a MFL teacher or a History one. If you are not good at spelling well just get help, use a dictionary before hand for instance. But don't get in the classroom and write words on the board that are not properly spelt. If you do so you are being unfair on the kids.
    Some of you stated that you are just 'the victims of your education'. Well I have a little boy and I would hate him to be one of your victims (bad spelling teacher).
    Now I am not saying that because you can not spell then you can not be a good teacher. Just make sure you check your work .
    I have been educated in France and I have never heard of such a debate/discussion, simply because it is not an option, you have to be able to spell.
    Gosh where are your standards????
    The kids deserve better.
     
  20. louiseelsiet

    louiseelsiet New commenter

    A RIDICULOUS comment that should be ignored! Obviously an attention seeking comment! Why can't you be a teacher if you can't spell? If a person knows that their spelling is not the best there are such things as a dictionary/spell check to help. As long as words are not spelt incorrectly for the children - what's the problem?
    Bad speller doesn't equate to a bad teacher!
     

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