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Paying for extra sessions

Discussion in 'Early Years' started by candyshrimp, Apr 2, 2011.

  1. candyshrimp

    candyshrimp New commenter

    Yes it is possible in schools, we have done it before.
    Obviously only works if you have enough spare places to sell.
    Also the school would need to have it written into the admissions policy stating that places will be available to pay for only if the school has capacity to fulfil the children's needs. This is because a child who has significant special needs might need TA support during their free entitlement. If that same child's parents are paying for extra sessions who would pay for that TA to still be supporting them? The same would happen with a child needing nappy changes. The school would have to allocate staff to do this during the normal entitlement but it would be costly for the whole week.
    You also have to have the correct ratio of adults to children at lunchtime and therefore staff to supervise dinnertimes.
  2. is there a requirement to register seperately if you do this? We would be very interested in this idea but was advised that we may need to register because we would be providing an 'out of school hours' service? Can anyone provide any further info on this?
  3. Thumperrabbit

    Thumperrabbit New commenter

    Lots of our local schools do this, they call it 'wrap around care', from what I can gather they are a seperate entity to the school so they set up as a 'private run setting' even though it's usually governor run. Ive heard of costs of £3 if they just use lunch club and then £10 per 3 hour session for the afternoon.
  4. katycustard

    katycustard Occasional commenter

    If you have any vacancies you can sell these to parents, our LA suggests we charge £5.09 per hour, which is what they fund us. We know that our parent's won't pay that and the local provision elsewhere is £3.50 per hour so we would charge that. You would have to change your admission policy to explain the way you're going to do it. For example, what would you do if you had vacancies and gave them to paying parents and a 3.5 yr old moved into the area and was entitled to their 15 hrs per week what would you do? We're moving into charging and our policy would say that the places could be bought each term and couldn't be guaranteed the next term.
    Hope that helps.
  5. My school offers this additional care. It is provided through a limited company set up by the school and it's open 8-5.30. So none of the school nursery places are ever 'sold'. Instead parents can pay the company for extra sessions. The company employs staff separately from the school staff but all of the children are together in the one setting.
  6. We offer this for our nursery children at 15 pound a session or 3.50 a lunchbox session. We call it wrap a round andwe sell quite a few places. My big problem with it, is that the money earnt by us is not spent on us or put in for extra resources. So last Summer when we were making a 100 pound a week we didn't see a penny of it and had all these extra kids using more resources and taking our time when we should have had an extra member of staff. Make sure you have an admin person to do invoices etc as it is a big job.

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