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Pay and "job title"

Discussion in 'Pay and conditions' started by casperyc, Feb 18, 2016.

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  1. casperyc

    casperyc New commenter

    Hi all,

    I am a newbie to teaching, so forgive if this is too simple.

    Can someone explain a bit to me how are the pay scale related to your "job title"?

    I know there are two scales, the MPS and UPS. But how exactly/ who decides which scale to use?
    Also for TLRs, are they part of the salary? Or something we can apply/claim for, for specific teaching and learning use? Do TLRs get taxed?

    I have also saw something called ASTs and ETs (in old posts). Do they still exits? What would the "job title" usually look like?

    As teachers, do we get reduced tax?

    Thanks!
     
  2. frustum

    frustum Star commenter

    MPS - main professional scale, UPS - upper pay scale.
    It used to be that there were only 9 points on the pay scale - you started at the bottom or two points up, depending on qualifications, and moved up a point each year. Then, to encourage us, they added an extra pay scale so that your pay increases didn't stop after 7 years. There was a "threshold" you had to apply to cross to get onto UPS. Then they reduced the length of each scale, so that we could get to the top faster. So now we're back to nine points altogether, but it's harder to get onto the higher ones.

    EXCEPT - it's now completely up to schools whether they use those pay scales or something of their own devising, and they can set their own criteria for moving up.

    NQTs will generally start at the bottom of any school's pay scale, unless they can argue for more based on lots of school-based experience or being the only applicant for a physics post.

    TLRs are teaching and learning responsibility posts - you won't be applying for these until you've got some experience. You get an extra amount of pay, and this amount will usually be in the job ad. You'd get that added to wherever you are on the scale.

    All pay is taxed just the same, and there are no extra tax breaks for teachers. If you pay into the pension scheme (which you should), that's taken off before tax.
     
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  3. casperyc

    casperyc New commenter

    Both state and independent schools? I thought only independent schools have the freedom to "pay" their employees?
     
  4. CandysDog

    CandysDog Occasional commenter

    Most state schools are tied to the School Teachers' Pay and Conditions Document (STPCD). This used to specify particular pay points (as the answer above details), but since 2013 it only specifies the minimum and maximum points for each scale. Many schools have stuck to six points on MPS and three on UPS, though. However, schools can now dictate their own criteria for moving up the pay scales and quite a lot are using this freedom.

    Independent schools can pay whatever they like.

    Some state schools (mainly academies) have the freedom to pay whatever they like too, but, in reality, most use the minimums and maximums of the MPS and UPS.
     
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  5. CandysDog

    CandysDog Occasional commenter

    ASTs (Advanced Skills Teachers) and ETs (Excellent Teachers) do not exist any more.

    There is no direct link between job titles of pay, though there are many conventions. 'Teacher of...' posts are likely to be regular MPS/UPS-only posts, while 'Head of...', 'Coordinator of...' etc. titles are likely to have a TLR attached.
     
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  6. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

  7. install

    install Star commenter

    We are the working poor after all....
     

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