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Paths to becoming a french teacher?

Discussion in 'Modern foreign languages' started by diane_bondouaire, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. diane_bondouaire

    diane_bondouaire New commenter

    Hello everyone,
    I currently hold a bachelor of french literature and linguistics from a french university and I would like to become a modern foreign languages teacher in a UK school. However, I am completely at lost when it comes to QTS and PGCE and ITT. What would be the best choice for me, keeping in mind that I live in France and cannot go study in the UK for a year? Are there any online courses available?
    Thanks in advance for your answers
  2. Dodros

    Dodros Star commenter

    According to https://www.gov.uk/guidance/qualified-teacher-status-qts#eea-nationals, "If an EEA member state (and that includes France) recognises you as a qualified school teacher you can apply for QTS in England under the terms of Council Directive 2005/36/EC.

    If you trained outside the EEA you can also apply for QTS in England. An EEA member state needs to recognise your qualifications and you will need 3 years of experience as a teacher in that state.

    Swiss nationals are also eligible to apply for QTS in England.

    From the 19 December 2016 teachers who are recognised in the EEA but who are only qualified to teach pupils with special educational needs and disabilities (SEND) can apply for partial qualified teacher status in England. A teacher with partial qualified teacher status can be appointed to a qualified teacher post in a special school or to teach pupils in a specialist unit in mainstream schools. Partial qualified teacher status also exempts a teacher from the requirement to serve a statutory induction period in England. This change is due to an amendment to Council Directive 2005/36/EC. EU Member States must recognise qualifications when they entitle a professional to work in specific areas of a regulated profession.

    If you’re not sure if you’re eligible please contact qts.enquiries@education.gov.uk."

    So if you are qualified to teach in a school in France, the statement above suggests that you are also qualified to teach in the UK.
  3. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    Unless I am mistaking, the OP is not a qualified teacher in France.
  4. diane_bondouaire

    diane_bondouaire New commenter

    Thank you so much for your answers. After taking some time to do a lot of research, I believe that a PGCE in modern foreign languages would be the best option for me as I do not want to pass the ''concours'' in France and become a teacher of the French Educational System. Can a PGCE be distance taught? By the end of this school year I will have two bachelors; one in French and one in English, will that be sufficient in order to apply for a PGCE (as I haven't done a UK curriculum in high school)?
  5. mfldude

    mfldude New commenter

    A PGCE course cannot be distance taught as the vast majority of the course is two teaching placements in schools. You would therefore need to spend a year in the UK in order to complete a PGCE course. If this is not an option for you, then it is unlikely that you would be able to gain a teaching position in the UK, although there may be some independent schools who would hire an unqualified teacher. However, most would also want somebody who is qualified. If you are serious about wishing to teach in the UK, you are therefore going to need to train here. It is also essential that you have some understanding of the education system here - not only in terms of curriculum, but also in terms of students' perceptions of (and attitudes towards) MFL here. I would recommend that you try and spend some time in a school here first - possibly as a Foreign Language Assistant- in order to experience how things are in (even very good) schools here. Otherwise you may be surprised by how things are.....
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  6. catmother

    catmother Star commenter

    May I ask why you want to be a teacher in the UK rather than in France?
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  7. diane_bondouaire

    diane_bondouaire New commenter

    If you pass the concours in France, you are obligated to teach in a school in France for at least two years and you cannot choose where you teach. Also, it is much harder for a teacher from France to get a job abroad. And as you are dependent of the french educational system, you are kind of stuck; you don't hold a diploma, the concours allows you to have a teacher status but if you were to apply to another school that isn't french, you don't have any paper certifying that you are a teacher.
  8. infomarieau

    infomarieau New commenter


    I lived for 4 years in UK and I would like to train to be a french teacher. Unfortunately I did not have a good result in maths and science in France ( I still managed to have my bachelor) and they told me that it is a must if I want to be train to be a teacher in UK. I also need to have a language diploma like Cambridge or Ielts.
    UK needs language teachers and they make it so difficult to be one even if you are really passionate and motivated. Is there any way to be trained and be a french teacher in the UK? Thank you =)
  9. Caity52

    Caity52 New commenter

  10. agathamorse

    agathamorse Senior commenter

    They say there is a shortage of language teachers but it isn’t all over the UK. As an experienced teacher and former head of mfl (French and German) I have found it impossible to get a permanent job in Lincolnshire. I’ve been teaching since 1995 and now survive on supply and maternity contracts. In my town only one school offers 3 languages. The other grammar school is now dropping German and will only offer French. Most schools here are offering Spanish or Spanish and French. To get a job as a language teacher you need to offer more than one language. Nowadays it seems to be French and Spanish.
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  11. yasf

    yasf Established commenter

    Not half as difficult as it is for an English person to teach English in schools in France.
    What is your aim once you are qualified? Do you wish to teach in the UK, or elsewhere? If not in the UK, then you could do an iPGCE.

    PS - I'm an ex Spanish teacher who has now left the UK and changed subjects. IMHO anyone volunteering to work as a language teacher in the UK state system needs their head examined. That said, good luck :)
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