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Okay, pupils. Bring in your mobiles and laptops to use in class .....

Discussion in 'Computing and ICT' started by Twinklefoottoe, Dec 13, 2015.

  1. Twinklefoottoe

    Twinklefoottoe Senior commenter

    "Miles Berry, principal lecturer in computing education at the University of Roehampton, supports the idea of allowing such technology in classrooms, and believes more schools will choose to allow students to bring in their own devices.

    “Schools have two options when it comes to technology: they can either buy the kit or they can let their students bring their own in,” he said. “Budgets are limited and if schools are satisfied they can keep their students safe, then allowing them to bring in their own device and use it for their learning seems like such an obvious thing to do.”"

    You have to wonder when the last time some people who manage to get themselves quoted last stepped into a bog standard academy, complete with nightmare students, disfunctional behaviour policies, cutbacks in ICT support staff and students who don't give a @@@@.

    Perhaps these people should do a few months in Scumsville High before imparting their wisdom on those at the chalkface.

  2. madcat

    madcat Occasional commenter

    Unfortunately Mr B does a lot more than simply" impart his wisdom on those at the chalkface" if you read his Bio.

    ...and surprise, surprise he is a leading light in CAS

    Besides why are we still discussing BYOD, I thought everyone had agreed that while it could, in an idealised world, have benefits It was a non-starter in the majority of schools - for many of the reasons identified above and a lot more besides (see posts passim)
  3. Twinklefoottoe

    Twinklefoottoe Senior commenter

    My point exactly. This chap, if you read his history carefully, as penned by himself, has actually had next to no teaching Computer Science experience in a secondary school, let alone a bog standard one. How he ever got to be in a position where he can impart wisdom at practical teachers, who face all the real challenges of today, Christ knows.

    Lord, save us from theorists and researchers, please! They know not what damage to education they do.
  4. colwynexile

    colwynexile Occasional commenter

    But Roehampton is home to the Alton Estate (quote Wikipedia - the largest council estate in Europe), which was used for some of the filming of Fahrenheit 451 due to its bleak, dystopian look. I'm sure Miles is predicting a future where the urban swathes of south west London remove every text book in similar book-burning frenzies (especially those neighbours from Richmond Park, Putney and Wimbledon Common). So a BYOD future is the only one he can see, as we all know the trouble it can take to try and get a mobile phone off a kid in class when they start to use it. There's no way they'll give them up to be burnt without a fight!!!!
    JaquesJaquesLiverot likes this.
  5. JM6699

    JM6699 New commenter

    And here lies the problem. If you look at all of the committees, quangos, groups or whatever you want to call them that are making recommendations (and in some cases jetting around the world talking) about what should be happening with Computing in schools there is hardly a current secondary teacher among them. Any wonder we're in such a mess?
  6. Twinklefoottoe

    Twinklefoottoe Senior commenter

    It's remarkable, isn't it? Trainee teachers being taught by theorists in fourth rate universities, steering groups being comprised of theorists, retired academics and researchers, publications like the TES sucking up and printing their quotes without stopping to think about whether they are someone worth listening to, and all the time, teaching and learning is in a spiral of decline.

    What a @@@@ job teaching has become, but it isn't difficult to understand why. Perhaps a great piece of research would be to investigate the impact on the quality of trainee teachers when taught by people who have rarely if ever stepped inside a tough inner city school, or how effective committees with little to no experience in real non-Eton schools are at steering education in the right direction.

    Imagine if all the NHS policy makers were made up of individuals who had never worked inside a hospital before? Oh, hang on ......
  7. TonyGT

    TonyGT Established commenter

    This isn't just a terrible idea for rough academies, it's a terrible idea for everyone. I did a similar thing for one project in my private international school of hard working kids and I would never do it again. Unless you have a class of kids with the EXACT same kit containing the EXACT same software (and no additional software) then it's not even remotely workable, and the fact that this guy thinks it is just shows how much he knows.

    Go ahead, try it. Your entire lessons will be taken up sorting out technical problems on 25 different operating systems with 25 different setups and 25 different background apps blocking things. And obviously IT support will have nothing to do with it because it's not their fault you're an idiot.

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