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Ok - can they make their minds up?

Discussion in 'Education news' started by JL48, Nov 21, 2015.

  1. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    We have too many expensive experienced teachers... [not my opinion, governments/Ofsted/SLT]

    We don't have enough young inexperienced but cheap teachers.

    Turns out if you treat established like sh/t then new recruits are reluctant to dive in. Odd that.
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  3. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    Those in charge want it all.

    They want to reduce the amount of staff they employ so that costs can be reduced leaving more cash left over to pay for the latest Audi .

    But at the same time they want lots of potential staff all queueing up for a job to get mangement out of the smelly stuff when Ofsted come a calling.

    What they haven't realised is that there aren't any teacher jobs when teachers need them teachers will pick up employment in another field. Also potential teachers will see this cost cutting going on and wisely recognise its a waste of their investment in time and money training in the first place to be a teacher.
  4. drek

    drek Star commenter

    Nah they are setting up the public to accept 5 pound an hour first rate outstanding teachers
  5. HoratioBlows

    HoratioBlows Senior commenter

    I think you're right les25paul. They really do want it all.
  6. MrMedia

    MrMedia Star commenter

    They took their eye off the regional ball as well when Gove removed the duty for SofS to provide adequate qualified teachers. So we have gluts, and I mean gluts, of teachers in some areas and we have shortages of teachers in other areas.
    That academy chains and converted academies are cutting experienced teachers is heresay and it would be interesting to try a FOI request to evaluate whether this is true or not.
    If you think about the demands that Ofsted makes for schools to keep and use statistics and compare that to the lack of statistics the DofE holds about its own schools, who they employ, turnover, etc. I'm sure they could be found needing to be put into special measures.
  7. Yoda-

    Yoda- Lead commenter

    So if I've got this right:

    A shortage in some hard to fill subjects such as maths, physics and chemistry.

    Too small a budget to pay the wage bill. Heads plan to cut staff to balance the books. Schools with sixth forms disproportionatly impacted.

    Heads dream solution?
    Hire cheap new shortage subject teachers. Ease out expensive experienced staff teaching other subjects. Balance books and gain compliant green staff.

    Obvious problem. Lack of shortage staff! Probable outcome is that experienced expensive staff are eased out. Subject shortage stays. Schools have smaller staff that have an even higher work load. More staff to teach outside their specialism.

    The two articles do not disagree with one another but point towards an inevitable decline in this countries non fee paying education.

    Is the government concerned? Most of them were educated privately. Probably not?

    Do not worry because The Right Honorable Nicky Morgan Secretary of State for Education did a work load survey and is "too normal" to be pm.

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