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NQT quits after a term - harm to his "emotional and psychological well-being"

Discussion in 'Education news' started by asnac, Nov 5, 2017.

  1. asnac

    asnac Established commenter

    From the Daily Mail

    'I just couldn't take any more': Newly-qualified teacher, 22, reveals in video blog he quit after just one term because 'he didn't get home until 6.30pm' and it harmed his 'emotional and psychological well-being'
    • Eddie Ledsham blamed the pressure of impossible hours and unrealistic targets
    • The 22-year-old filmed a home video revealing why he has quit after one term
    • He was ready to quit after three weeks but kept going after talk with his mother
    • The graduate says he was warned by tutors that his first year would be difficult
  2. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    I read that...
    I generally have sympathy for genuinely overworked and unhappy teachers, but he seems a bit of a snowflake to me. Maybe I'm being harsh, but nothing in the story made me think he had much to complain about.

    As always, I enjoyed reading the comments at the end of the article.
  3. Alldone

    Alldone Established commenter

    "poor snowflake had to do some work how debilitating." This comment had over 7000 likes on the Daily Wail. Just about sums up what general public think of teachers.
    nomad, Compassman, sabrinakat and 2 others like this.
  4. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    "Mr Ledsham said: 'At uni, we were told that each lesson would require a three A4 page plan."

    This is a huge part of what is to blame. Expectations are all wrong. What they should be teaching is more realism, a more practical pragmatic approach. They (not just the colleges - OFsted, the authorities, the SMTs) are failing staff and thereby failing children.
    Janettap, JL48, TCSC47 and 6 others like this.
  5. Benbamboo

    Benbamboo Occasional commenter

    "Snowflake" seems to be a favourite insult of the DM readership - amazing how such terminology spreads amongst like minded groups.

    As for the teacher in the article, good for him for recognising so early that teaching isn't for him (in it's current form). University does a poor job or preparing people for the reality of work as a teacher. It is an odd degree to have - many degrees are specialised on a subject which give arm you with skills and knowledge. Teaching degrees should prepare you for teaching, but they don't seem to do a great job of it. Yes, the pedagogy is important, but that soon gets left behind under the stack of paperwork you are expected to fill in.
    Geoff Thomas, TCSC47, saluki and 2 others like this.
  6. galerider123

    galerider123 Lead commenter

    At the time, I was a 40-year-old male with a 1st class degree and 18 years of professional experience working in London. In previous jobs I had been interviewed on live national TV and radio, briefed peers and MPs on proposed amendments to planning legislation, serviced high-profile financial clients such as JP Morgan and The Bank of New York – yet here I was, sitting in tears alone at my desk in my classroom at 8.15am because I just couldn’t see how it was possible to do what was being asked of me. I felt utterly and totally hopeless.
    "why go to all the effort of attracting people into the teaching profession and training them up, only to then dump them in it during their NQT year?"
  7. galerider123

    galerider123 Lead commenter

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  8. englishtt06

    englishtt06 Occasional commenter

    I don't want to do the Daily Mail any credit by clicking on their article; but doesn't this article give their readers yet more ammunition along the lines of 'lazy, whinging teachers don't know what hard work is etc. etc etc.' Allowing them to gloss over all the issues with retention in education. @galerider123 's article is much more on the money but sadly won't feature in the Daily Mail as it doesn't fit the work-shy, leftie, tree-hugging narrative of teachers that they love to perpetuate. And who ultimately suffers? The kids (won't somebody please think of the children!).
  9. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    It says in the DM article 'He would get up at 5.30am to do marking and then do planning in his classroom before the day started.' It also says that he would work through lunch. So, if he finishes at 6:30pm then he's been working practically non-stop for 13 hours, minus shower and commute time. Hardly a snowflake.
  10. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Lead commenter

    Credit to him for making the decision and at least he's found out that nobody thinks teachers work hard about 10 years younger than I did.

    People in the 'real world' can all think of a day when their in-tray had more than 2 items in it and the phone needed answering so no holiday-junkie can tell them about stress. And believe me I've tried, though perhaps the pub isn't the best debating arena.
    sabrinakat likes this.
  11. letap

    letap Occasional commenter

    To be honest the likes of Paul Dacre at the Daily Mail don't really care about teachers or the lives of its own readership. This article has only one express purpose and that is to generate clicks by pandering to the usual faux outrage of the Daily Mail reader.
    Its probably not as bad as the express article with the headline Motorist exacts justice on cyclist which showed a video of a cyclist being mowed over by a motorist.
    TCSC47 and phlogiston like this.
  12. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Well done sunshine

    Best decision you'll ever make

    Daily Mail readers are some of the thickest creatures with a backbone.

    If you're using the word "snowflake", it says more about you than anyone else. Especially a hardworking young teacher.
  13. empea

    empea New commenter

    Good for him. I envy his choice.

    I thoroughly believe anyone who perpetuates and supports the current madness in education have deluded themselves into thinking they're doing the right thing.

    I've now been performance managed into creating perfect looking evidence rather than doing the right thing for the children. It's soul destroying and heartbreaking how much my school is letting our children down.

    ... yet Ofsted recently graded us outstanding.
    thatmaninthehat and pepper5 like this.
  14. elder_cat

    elder_cat Established commenter

    I came into teaching late in life. Before that I had served operational tours in Northern Ireland.

    I started my sandwich degree course, with our daughter waiting for a lung transplant. It happened three quarters of the way through Year 1. Following the operation she developed a series of complications and setbacks, and we spent the next year and a half travelling the 40-odd miles between home and hospital on a regular basis to stay in hospital accommodation, while she recuperated. We then had her living at home. Sadly, she developed cancer and passed away, just before my final year. Finding the resolve to complete that year, with everything that rested on it, at the same time as tring to prop my wife up, took its toll.

    I followed it up with a PGCE year, then moved into teaching in FE. I did 7 years, before deciding enough was enough, and still people could not understand why I chose to leave teaching.

    May one enquire exactly how much machismo or resilience one is expected to show, in order to avoid being labelled as a "snowflake"?
    Geoff Thomas, bevdex, saluki and 9 others like this.
  15. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Lead commenter

    The DM might give you a pass on that bit (but none of the other whinging, teachery, snowflake stuff)
  16. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter


    Maybe some of these Daily Mail readers should try teaching before handing out the insults. Quite surprised at those on here using the term as well.

    Anyway, I’m sure he won’t regret his decision.
  17. jarndyce

    jarndyce Occasional commenter

    He's working long hours, that's for sure, but he's not doing thirteen hour days. He arrives home at 6:30 (leaves at about 6?), and happens to wake up at 5:30 because (like some of us) he prefers to get stuff done in the morning rather than in the evening. I'm not going to calculate how long his commute must be and how long he actually works, but an awful lot of NQTs work similarly long hours. Not a "snowflake", but unless it's a truly hellish school you'd hope he could endure more than three weeks. Still, I hope he'll find the right career for himself.
  18. blueskydreaming

    blueskydreaming Lead commenter

    You're basing this on what, exactly? Your own commute? My first year teaching I lived 10 minutes from school, so if I woke up at 5:30 and got home at 18:30 I would have been doing 12 hour days, and been on the go for 13 hour non-stop.

    You're trying to normalise this - you're saying it's perfectly reasonable for someone to work 11 or 12 hours per day, which is 55-60 hours per week (plus he'll probably be working at the weekend too). And you think that he should have put up with this for more than 3 weeks? Why, when he realised immediately that the rest of the year was going to be the same?
  19. Compassman

    Compassman Star commenter

    Exactly. There should not be any normalising of these 12 hour days.

    Just because others do it doesn’t make it right.
  20. Curae

    Curae Lead commenter

    This moved me. A touching story of resilience and determination in the face of a very difficult situation . You have indeed been through a tremendous emotional path one that many of us will look up to and learn from. I hope both your wife and yourself will continue to have the strength you have clearly demonstrated you have. It saddens me that people of character and substance have been so stressed that they had to leave teaching. I too agree that you made the right decision God bless you and your loved ones. Your story has stayed with me and you will be in my prayers.

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