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Notre Dame is on fire !

Discussion in 'Personal' started by peakster, Apr 15, 2019.

  1. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    Billy Joel strenuously denies having anything to do with it.
  2. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

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  3. Mangleworzle

    Mangleworzle Star commenter

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  4. racroesus

    racroesus Star commenter

    Must buy the Ballymena Guardian to see why it happened.
  5. fraisier

    fraisier Established commenter

    The French civil defence reply to Donald The Fire Expert…


    Alastair Gee

    The French civil defence and crisis management agency have dismissed President Trump’s suggestion that flying water tankers could put the fire out.

    “The drop of water by air on this type of building could result in the collapse of the entire structure along with the firefighers who are currently doing their best to save Notre Dame,” it tweeted.

    “Helicopter or airplane, the weight of the water and the intensity of the drop at low altitude could weaken the structure of Notre-Dame and result in collateral damage to the buildings in the vicinity.”

    Sécurité Civile Fr@SecCivileFrance

    #NotreDame @PompiersParis Le largage d'eau par avion sur ce type d'édifice pourrait en effet entraîner l'effondrement de l'intégralité de la structure.
    Aux côtés des #sapeurspompiers qui font actuellement le maximum pour sauver #NotreDame.

    5,260 7:38 PM - Apr 15, 2019

    [BTW, how/can do you embed Tweets on here, does anyone know?]
  6. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I hope that those involved and the onlookers are suitably protected. There were 250 tons of lead on that roof. Lead melts at 327°C. Fumes are released at 482°C. Lead oxide - a fine yellowish/brown dust will be widespread around the fire. Even with a good breeze there will be a 100% chance of lead dust in the immediate area.
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  7. fraisier

    fraisier Established commenter

    And I've just noticed a major mistranslation in the Guardian's translation:

    "Aux côtés des #sapeurspompiers qui font actuellement le maximum pour sauver #NotreDame." doesn't mean at all: “The drop of water by air on this type of building could result in the collapse of the entire structure along with the firefighers who are currently doing their best to save Notre Dame,” it tweeted.

    It means: "Full support to the firefighters etc." (for starters the punctuation in the French tweet should have set the alarm bells ringing; secondly, "aux côtés" doesn't mean "along with" at all in this context, it's simply a mark of support and is used for tragedies, accidents etc. Never mind (the Guardian translator clearly has never heard of Lynne Truss's Eats, Shoots & Leaves... the same principles apply in French punctuation of course, plus the meaning was wrong anyway).
    nomad likes this.
  8. Duke of York

    Duke of York Star commenter

    You can be sure it will say it was an act of God in response to the pope saying that homosexual tendencies are not a sin.
    racroesus likes this.
  9. fraisier

    fraisier Established commenter

    According to a French news channel (BFMTV, online), almost all - if not all - of the 13th century stained glass windows have been destroyed (needs confirmation of course).
  10. primarycat

    primarycat Star commenter

    It's just awful.
  11. fraisier

    fraisier Established commenter

  12. artboyusa

    artboyusa Star commenter

    No surprise, sadly. Stained glass is framed by lead. The lead melts and...
  13. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    Funny, but I can't seem to connect with the humorous comments made by some posters on this thread.
  14. Sally006

    Sally006 Occasional commenter

    Whatever renovation is possible we are unlikely to see it for years and years. There are people restoring the artworks from the Florence 1960s flood who know they won’t complete it in their lifetime. It took generations to build it - will take generations to rebuild. Let’s hope the main frame can be saved.
    cissy3, smoothnewt and nomad like this.
  15. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Lead commenter

    Give it a rest. Save your hobby horse for a more appropriate time.
    artboyusa, Alice K, chelsea2 and 3 others like this.
  16. nizebaby

    nizebaby Star commenter

    So much beauty and history gone, just like that. Tragic.
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  17. les25paul

    les25paul Star commenter

    A sad loss,

    But it could be worse, thankfully no one (as far as we know so far ) has died and lets hope it stays that way.
    peter12171 likes this.
  18. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

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  19. Nellyfuf2

    Nellyfuf2 Established commenter

    It's terrible. I feel angry and upset.
  20. dunnocks

    dunnocks Star commenter

    a fire fighter has been badly hurt, praying for a full recovery for them
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