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#NotMeToo says Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau

Discussion in 'Personal' started by Vince_Ulam, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter


  2. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

  3. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Gary the Unicorn has a good case:

  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    There is someone under that desk manipulating that puppet...

    [read into that what you want]
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  5. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

  6. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    She was one of Weinstein's accusers yes?
  7. Vince_Ulam

    Vince_Ulam Star commenter

    Yes. Argento accused Weinstein shortly before she settled Bennett's lawsuit for $380,000. The Guardian only uses the word 'rape' in this article in reference to her Weinstein accusations.
  8. Orkrider2

    Orkrider2 Star commenter

    Is it hipocrisy? In her specific case yes, but not nexessarily in terms of the entire #metoo movement.

    Surely it's a good thing to come from Metoo that a) this kind of predatory behaviour is being brought to light and openly described as abusive and gross, b) that victims are not as readily being dismissed as not having done enough to prevent their own assaults (why were they happy to be alone in that situation with their abuser, why did they take photos in bed, why didn't they speak up sooner, etc and all that nonsense), or being complicit because until it stopped being beneficial for them, or as being opportunistic fame/money grabbers, and c) that it's highlighting that women can be sexual predators too.

    Part of the problem with the way that Hollywood and other institutions dealt with accusations of sexual abuse and harassment was that it was seen far too much as just something that happens and there's no point doing anything. The attitude that coercion into sexual acts as part of the 'casting couch' experience is something that's been going on forever and if people don't want to be subjected to it, they shouldn't put themselves in that position.
    Apart from the fact that it means abuse carries on unchecked, it completely ignores the cycle of abused to abuser that often happens, which continued to perpetuate an environment where abuse was going unchecked and seen as an unavoidable part of life.

    Metoo, for all its faults, has thrust that into the spotlight and it won't be an immediate fix and it won't weed out all the people with bad intentions, but it might just change our understanding of how abuse can be perpetuated on a large scale over a long period of time by people turning a blind eye and making excuses. And it might mean that effective and meaningful changes can be made to working procedures and attitudes to help protect people, especially the young, naive and inexperienced, from being taken advantage of or actively exploited.
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  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Tarana Burke [founder of #MeToo] posting on Twitter...



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    And I think that's decent ... since this began it is unfortunate that male voices have been silenced by people seeking to push a male/female narrative...

    Hopefully this can correct things and allow all victims, irrespective of gender, to find a voice.

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