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Not teaching my subject

Discussion in 'Workplace dilemmas' started by NewName18, Dec 4, 2018.

  1. aypi

    aypi Established commenter

    AS a woodwork teacher who did engineering maths at university for 4 years, I am not allowed to teach maths in Scotland, because I dont have enough maths. Teaching in England is in a terrible place.
     
  2. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    If we taught Functional Maths to all and GCSE only to students as an option then we might do an awful lot better.

    Everyone (by definition) needs FS but not everyone needs GCSE in English or Maths. Let the motivated kids elect to do it.

    I've taught FS Maths and it's not that hard for a non-mathematician because they're exactly the topics we all cover in everyday life and have been doing through adulthood. Save "proper" teachers for where and when they are needed. Otherwise some content can be taught by non-specialists up to GCSE. I'd prefer to have staff who're enthusiastic about it rather than having been dragooned into it though.
     
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  3. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Lead commenter

    Try teaching Physics. Half the time I have to teach the Maths first so that I can then teach the Physics.
     
  4. gilderbeast2000

    gilderbeast2000 New commenter

    Surely if a position is advertised as 'Teacher of History' in the original job advertisement then the school is breaching contractual terms by asking you ti teach other subjects? I would walk out if asked to teach other subjects. Its not fair on the teachers but especially on students. Last year I heard I was being considered for some IT lessons but I let it be known that there was no way I would be teaching outside my subject areas. You needs to be more assertive about this.
     
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  5. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter


    That may sound good advice, and may work in some schools..but in many it will simply lead to you being made redundant or, perhaps more likely these days, singled out for dismissal on a trumped up charges following repeated observations... :eek:
     
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  6. catbefriender

    catbefriender Lead commenter

    You're kinda supporting my view, that teaching the Maths is the anxiety. :p But I agree teaching Physics after having gone through teaching the Maths to support the Physics, will be difficult as well.
     
  7. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Senior commenter

    Don't forget the basic manners and behaviours that you have to teach before you can teach the maths to support the physics!
     
  8. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    How true! When I taught physics tudents seemed to have little clue about interpreting graphs and they used the equals sign as indicating 'the next part of the solution is...' rather than an equality.
     
  9. SCAW12

    SCAW12 Occasional commenter

    I have taught three subjects in two schools, for more than one year now. Two subjects out of specialism.

    Teaching more than your specialism is common now.

    I have never had all my lessons in one classroom, ever. You will adapt. I did from my first year in teaching. Hope it goes well for you and your plan has a happy conclusion.
     
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  10. JohnJCazorla

    JohnJCazorla Star commenter

    Can't we just agree to call it by its proper name?
    Hitting Nails into Wood
    :p
     
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  11. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    Er, excuse ME @JohnJCazorla

    Fashioning a mitre joint does not involve hitting nails into wood!!! :eek::eek::eek:

    No nails. Screws, dear. Screws. Not for mitre joints. Obviously. But a lot of construction is better done with screws rather than nails. Ahem.

    Signed
    GDW
    Adviser On Theoretical Carpentry And Joinery
     
  12. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Senior commenter

    Nails?! You used nails?!

    We were only ever trusted with wood glue.
     
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  13. CheeseMongler

    CheeseMongler Senior commenter

    (or screws even!)
     
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  14. Shedman

    Shedman Star commenter

    You made that quite plane.
     
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  15. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    I felt I had to hammer it home.
     
  16. yodaami2

    yodaami2 Lead commenter

    Unfortunately grumps FS won't go in a bucket. #whendataismoreimportantthantheneedsoftheindivdual!
     
  17. yodaami2

    yodaami2 Lead commenter

    And Chemistry; logarithms when logs are not even taught at GCSE maths!
     
  18. hammie

    hammie Lead commenter

    a few personal responses to all of the above.

    If you are struggling with teaching Maths content, try Corbett Maths online. Free to use, a video for everything you need to teach for pretty much all ages and abilities.

    Older Maths teachers unable to find work? register with an agency. They do all the donkey work, no more application forms or all day interviews. The good ones match you with suitable work as they only get paid if the school employs you. I've found several decent posts through them and when I want to move, they are in regular contact to check in with me. The pay is not as good, but if you have cashed your pension at 55 as many have according to comments on here.....

    And regarding asking other teachers to teach Maths, I guess its better than them making say two history teachers redundant. We do always have the option to find a new job at a different school. Personally I specialised in Math and Science many years ago cos I wanted a job! But even then I've opted to teach both Business Studies and ICT to GCSE level using my previous experience.
     
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  19. Piranha

    Piranha Star commenter

    Yes. It doesn't help that the standard Maths exam question on graph tells them to draw it and, if you are really lucky, there might be a couple of marks at the end for saying what the graph is telling us. As for use of equals, I went to a session on how Maths is taught at my daughter's primary school to see an example going something like 299x3=300x3=900-3=897.
     
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  20. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    @Piranha

    They actually wrote that down? For everyone to see?

    THAT!!! :mad::mad::mad::(:(:(:confused::confused::confused::mad::mad::mad:
     
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