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no place at uni

Discussion in 'Personal' started by chantillycream, Aug 22, 2011.

  1. for various reasons ........my son has not got into Uni - he has changed his ideas about which course he wants to do and really expected he would be able to get a place to do languages insead of sciences through clearing - however he is now on his 5th day of trawling through internet sites and phoning admissions people. I feel he should wait and re apply rather than go on a course just for the sake of it. BUT what 18 year old listens to their mum?? It is a big blow to his self esteem- all his mates have got into where they wanted. What could he do if he defers for a year?
    He is a charming young man and i hate to see him so morose.
    Any ideas??
     
  2. for various reasons ........my son has not got into Uni - he has changed his ideas about which course he wants to do and really expected he would be able to get a place to do languages insead of sciences through clearing - however he is now on his 5th day of trawling through internet sites and phoning admissions people. I feel he should wait and re apply rather than go on a course just for the sake of it. BUT what 18 year old listens to their mum?? It is a big blow to his self esteem- all his mates have got into where they wanted. What could he do if he defers for a year?
    He is a charming young man and i hate to see him so morose.
    Any ideas??
     
  3. BelleDuJour

    BelleDuJour Star commenter

    He wants to go now as fees will be £3k pa. If he goes next year it will be £9k pa.
    Who can blame him?
    Mind you, Sciences to Languages.......not a lot in common there!
     
  4. My younger son went to Uni at 18 (another fees scare), decided the course wasn't for him, came back after a month, did a sh1t assembly-line job for a year which certainly gave him a whole new perspective on life and people he wouldn't normally meet, went to a different University a year later, enjoyed the intellectual aspect of the course but didn't wish to pursue it as a career after three work experiences, and is thus now doing a job you could train a pigeon to do for peanuts.
    I haven't got a problem with this. he's a big boy. Put up with it or change it. his father is gutted. But Son himself is philosophical.
    Don't prejudge your son's life. It'll sort itself.
     
  5. He did the IB though and not A levels - he didn't do as well as he thought he would in the sciences but did really well in the humanities part.
    Is it better for him to go now and do a course he doesnt want to do just because the fees are going up...?
     
  6. What on earth would be the point in spending all that money on something he doesn't actually want to do? It isn't going to serve him well and I doubt he would be very successful in his coursework/exams if he has little or no interest/enjoyment in the subject!
     
  7. The fees are going up, does not mean he will actually pay more, there is a time limit so you pay a certain amount for a certain lenght of time, then the rest is written off. From that point of view, the fees could be 90 or 900k, the amount repaid won't actually change.
    Travel, community service, paid work (enjoyable or not enjoyable it's all good experience) evening classes, independant study... any of these would broaden his horizons and improve his personal development.
    What a lovely situation to be in..... wouldn't you like to have the oppetunity to do a gap year here and now?
     
  8. If he wants to specialise in languages, would he consider spending this next year abroad? The pay wouldn't be brilliant (depending on what work he finds) but living in the country would be great for his language skills. (There is nothing like a few monthe immersion to bring on fluency!) and it will give him an edge when he finally gets to Uni next year.
    Also, has he considered going to Uni in a different country? With a bit of Googling he should be able to find a few possible colleges/Unis and see what sort of funding options are available.
     
  9. Depending on what he wants to do, he could offer his (unpaid) services to an organisation of his choice. Lots of people get (eventual) paid work this way - think runners, fashion interns (is 'intern' a specifically American term? I'm not sure what the British version is) etc.
    He may as well do it while he's young and still living at home...
     
  10. Where did he go to school, is there a careers adviser he could speak to try and work out what he wants? As already mentioned science to languages is a serious change of heart.
    No, that's why he needs to really sort out why he wants to go to uni. Is it just because his friends are going, it's what he expected to happen after his IB, it's the way into his chosen career?
     
  11. NellyFUF

    NellyFUF Senior commenter

    Since he has just changed his mind about what course he would like to do... I would advise him to let the dust settle, take his time, chill out, relax,
    sus out where he would like to go and what he would like to do and make a game plan for next year. He can then apply in the comfort of knowing his grades and pick exactly where and what to do.
    It feels to him like he has kind of failed. But he has not, he has been given an opportunity to slow down take his time and review the situation.
    He will get the pick of the universities next year. Marvellous.
    And in the mean time he has a year to work, to explore work experiences if he is so inclined, to spend time abroad getting language experience to help him with his future studies.
    There's no rush.
     
  12. Nellyfuf, other people always seem to be able to say what I want to say, but say it better!
     
  13. modelmaker

    modelmaker Occasional commenter

    My step daughter did this after she left school and it gave her the best start into adult life she could have hoped for. Her desire was to work within the travel industry and to do this she needed to perfect her language skills. She applied for au pair jobs and was lucky enough to be taken on by the Director of the Palais du Festivals in Cannes where she was able to meet lots of famous film stars and discover what life behind all the glamour is like. OK, she had to look after a couple of kids as well, and she didn't get paid a fortune, but she was treated very well. That year away gave her immense confidence and set her up for life in a way university could never have achieved.
     
  14. Don't worry about the fees going up from next year. Watch Martin Lewis explaining it all and it takes the fear away. I thought I knew all I needed to know until I watched this.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fKa-ErQ8E
    He explains it so clearly.
    Good luck, it's hard. I expected to be in your position but luckilly my son surprised me and he got the necessary grades. My niece and nephew both had to delay their uni years and both came out fine in the end. It was hard for them at the time though.
     
  15. Star_Teacher

    Star_Teacher New commenter

    To be honest Im hoping to never fully pay off my student loan and get it wiped off in 30 years!



    Look at the end of the day if university feels like the right option then it will still feel the right option in a years time, if it only feels like the right now option then ultimately things will turn out better by taking it easy and doing something else for a year. It is almost a win win situation ! :)
     
  16. MayKasahara

    MayKasahara New commenter

    There is another option; to take a course he is less keen on through clearing and try to switch to one that is currently 'full' once he has enrolled. It would be a big risk to do this but I did it myself (not intentionally it just worked out that way) and know several other people who also did so. This would depend on him finding a course he would be content to do for three years if he wasn't able to switch.
     
  17. Here's a thought - go to uni in another EU country - Ihave no idea about appplying but I know the fees are lopw in a lot of them.

    Maastrich teach in English, but if he can pick up languages then doing a science subject in another language would make him very employable.

    Maybe spend 6 months or a year abroad and then apply to uni in France, Germany wherever.


     

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