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Nissan chooses Japan over UK to build new X-Trail car

Discussion in 'Personal' started by JL48, Feb 3, 2019.

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Which of the following excuses will Brexiters settle on this time to justify Nissan's decision?

Poll closed Feb 10, 2019.
  1. It's FAKE NEWS

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. It's not a big deal - who cares about a few jobs up north anyway. (aka the JRM option)

    15.0%
  3. Nothing to do with Brexit, it would have happened anyway.

    65.0%
  4. other

    20.0%
  1. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

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  2. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    You have to understand that people like JRM only inhabit the fantasy land of Brexitworld where everything negative about this oncoming calamity can be assigned to "project fear" or something similar.

    But yet 70% of the people in that area voted to leave.

    My favourite quote of the day is from Lian Fux about it being "irresponsible" for the EU not to agree to change the backstop.

    Irresponsible - a good word - so appropriate for the Tories whole approach to brexit.

    Meanwhile - the clock runs and May gambles on getting her new deal (same as the old deal) through at some point where she decides that it's too late for anything else - despite the fact that they are woefully unprepared for a no-deal scenario.

    That my friends - is what irresponsible means.
     
  3. sparkleghirl

    sparkleghirl Star commenter

    Oh, is that the same Japan that's just sealed a new trade deal with the EU?
     
  4. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    Japanese company decides to build car in Japan.

    Erm.... OK.
     
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  5. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Maybe that's why then don't need to produce the X-Trail in the EU.
     
  6. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    Actually I think the time is coming where Rees-Mogg and his troublesome chums have a big decision to make. Up to now (mainly thanks to a very favourable press) they have been allowed to witter on and cause trouble with little or no responsibility for their actions. If we go no-deal and things go badly then they are right in the firing line of public opinion.

    They have probably worked this out so don't be surprised if next time there is a vote on the deal they (mostly) all fall into line like a bunch of sheep. I can't say the same for the DUP because they are nutters but they have been paid after all.

    Otherwise tar and feathers awaits.
     
  7. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    lol - you do know how puerile that comment sounds? Or was that your 'other'?
     
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  8. Aquamarina1234

    Aquamarina1234 Star commenter

    Lol.
    Self-awareness is not your thing, is it.
     
  9. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    There are also 323 opposition MPs who can vote to avoid no deal.,.
     
  10. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    You've failed to include the one that experts in the automotive industry have been saying all day: Nissan know that diesel has very little future in Europe, and future sales are likely to be in China and other far eastern countries that are not so punctilious in reducing pollution.

    Had there been a better future for diesel in Europe, Nissan would have announced moving production to their factories in France and/or Spain. They didn't.
     
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  11. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Location of Nissan factories
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  12. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter


    That's the Nissan which said they WOULD build it in the UK just 2 and a bit years ago - when they assumed the UK government would get a deal with the EU.
     
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  13. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Why? They don't want a no deal Brexit. They prefer the deal offered by the EU if the backstop can be removed, or otherwise a Canada-style free trade deal.

    The only reason why a no-deal Brexit will come about is nothing to do with the MP for N.E.Somerset. It will be because MPs - the whole ruddy lot of them - fail to reach an agreement.
     
  14. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    State a fact... get called puerile...

    Nice discussing it with you. Sad to see the level you've sunk to.
     
  15. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    OMG so puerile!

    [not aimed at you... aimed at JL48 who struggles with words]
     
  16. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    You have omitted France, where the Nissan Micra and Interstar are made (due to the Renault-Nissan alliance).
     
  17. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Apparently that's a Renault factory and not a Nissan factory.

    Not that it matters a great deal.
     
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  18. Weald56

    Weald56 Established commenter


    Don't defend post 4 - it was either a silly joke, an attempt to divert the discussion or the result of appalling ignorance. You choose.
     
  19. florian gassmann

    florian gassmann Star commenter

    Except that if diesel sales were still on the increase in Europe, Nissan could have moved production there, or to their Spanish factory. The fact that they are going to build the new diesel vehicle in Japan, where they will still have to pay 10% tariffs on EU sales until 2027 (according to the EU/Japan deal), is clear indication that they don't see much future for diesel in Europe.

    Honda has already announced it is stopping diesel sales in Europe by 2021. Toyota, Suzuki and Mitsubishi are all backing out of diesel in Europe. Only Mazda are continuing, and they will have to stop in the next 10 years in order to meet European pollution targets.
     
  20. JL48

    JL48 Star commenter

    Hence me adding 'other'. I don't have the mind of a raving loony Brexiter to justify the unjustifiable.
    It was going to be be built here. It isn't any longer. They have changed their minds, at least in part due to Brexit. That you made your comment without reading the article, and just shot from the hip - that's why I called it puerile.

    Very sad to see the level you've sunk to. :p
     
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