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New Deputy Post - and I really hate it!

Discussion in 'Senior Leadership Team' started by mongus, Jan 25, 2011.

  1. Started new post begining of month and hate it! Feel like I am doing nothing well, don't fit in, can't seem to complete anything or even get started really. Hate the politics within the school.
    Crying every night and waking up with a headache and dreading the day. Anybody else ever felt this when having moved schools? Does it get any better? [​IMG] I feel totally lost and very lonely.
     
  2. Started new post begining of month and hate it! Feel like I am doing nothing well, don't fit in, can't seem to complete anything or even get started really. Hate the politics within the school.
    Crying every night and waking up with a headache and dreading the day. Anybody else ever felt this when having moved schools? Does it get any better? [​IMG] I feel totally lost and very lonely.
     
  3. Always hard for the first few weeks and as deputy even harder. You are the 'bridge' between the teaching staff and the head so have always to have a foot in either camp, developing the relationships on both sides.
    Suggestions...
    Sit down with your head and talk through how you are feeling if you can;
    Join the local DHT's network if there is one and they will be able to empathise at least;
    Prioritise what you need to do and take any opportunity to meet with your Head to work through things together - you are a team and possibly the only person your Head has to talk things through with too;
    Take on a particular new initiative to lead - it will give you a clear focus and also establish you in the school;
    Moving mid-year is particularly hard in any post so hang on in there and you will be great! And yes, it does get better.
     
  4. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    Email me, you plank!
     
  5. I can certainly empathise with you - I too started my first DHship 4 weeks ago. My head is constantly buzzing and I also feel rather lost and ineffective. Might help us both if we were able to offload and provide mutual support for one another. Is there a way to personal message and still remain anonymous?
     
  6. Exactly how I feel! You can personal message me on here without disclosing identity. Just email me to become a friend.
     
  7. middlemarch - didn't want to winge at you. You have already helped me so much and if I am honest, did not want you to think less of me! You are my role model!
     
  8. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    *Picks nose, scratches bum* I hope not!
    It's times like this you need a friend. Feel free to email and offload - you worked hard enough to get that job.


     
  9. TheoGriff

    TheoGriff Star commenter

    I think, Middlemarsh, that this is a compliment, and you are supposed to reply graciously.
    Thank the nice lady/gentleman properly now!
    A lot of posters hold you and your views in high esteem, even if they don't always say so as openly as does Mongus.
    Personally I'm getting ready for my traditional Valentine's Day greeting to you.


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  10. breadmaker

    breadmaker New commenter

    I second that. Thanks Middlemarch for the consistently perceptive and helpful comments you bring to posts.
     
  11. I started my new leadership role in September and I feel exactly the same, everything you have said I do the same, only difference is I'm only a Phase Leader. I'm considering resigning from my management role as don't feel it was the right move to make, what would you suggest?
     
  12. anon2799

    anon2799 New commenter

    Don't resign just yet Angela. What exactly are you finding tough about the role? Pm
    if you don't want to post on here.
     
  13. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    I know, Theo, but I was embarrassed!
    I await a large box of belgian chocs on February 14th...
     
  14. One thing to remember that hasn't been said yet (I think) is that everyone who takes a leadership role feels like this or worse- for quite some time. Any that don't are probably neither reflective nor self-critical which will inevitably lead to poor outcomes from them.

    The trick is to keep it relatively hidden (but seek guidance from trusted sources) and not let it force you to quit.


    This is what they meant by, "It'll be a challenge."


    Best wishes.
     
  15. I can empathise! I started in a new school as an AHT in Sept and I really hate it. I'm struggling with behaviour and am just feeling like this type of role is really not for me. I liked being a subject leader but I hate this. I have no allies or friends on the staff and just feel lost and like I'm ****! I'm really thinking abut leaving and am looking in the TES every week but am not sure if I'll get just a class teacher role anywhere else as I'm probably a bit on the expensive side now!
     
  16. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    '
    I can't agree with this statement. If you'd said 'Some people..' rather than 'everyone' I would agree.
    The fact is that:
    * leadership roles don't actually suit everyone and the contrast can be a great shock
    or
    * Teachers who have done well in a middle management role in their previous school have enjoyed the relationships they had with colleagues and find the move to being Billy no-mates a big shock at first
    or
    * Sometimes the teacher is ready for leadership but the school is wrong for them and they didn't realise this might be the case when they applied (although you can often tell the school isn't for you on the look round, etc, you can't always)
    or
    * These days teachers who would be ready for leadership with a few more years' experience have been encouraged to apply too early.

     
  17. or
    the leasdership team is not working properly and this was not obvious during interview process, especially when internals applied and did not get it and cannot move on. Sometimes, there are forces beyond your control and no matter how hard you work barriers become immovable!
     
  18. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    That would fall within my third *, really! Sometimes you just can't tell if it's really a good move for you.
     
  19. It gets better - remember how you felt when you first started teaching !
    Try thinking you got the job because you demonstrated you had the skills to support the vision of the head , the pupils, parents etc and you have skills that they would have recognised as being valuable . etc

    Talk to your head ..they were deputy's once !
     
  20. Middlemarch

    Middlemarch Star commenter

    That's exactly my advice. Even if it sort of is the wrong school (for the reasons you've mentioned), it isn't irreparable for you. I'd be devastated as a head if I found out my new deputy was miserable and I'd want to do whatever I could to help.
     

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