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New Author Help and Advice

Discussion in 'Tes Authors' Group' started by jcoulter62, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. jcoulter62

    jcoulter62 New commenter


    I am a new author on Tes Resources and I was just wondering if I could get some help/advice, which I would be very grateful for.

    I've just started doing resources this month and posted around 30 resources and I've made £25 so far, is this good or bad? I know that I would not be able to make enough for a full-time position on here, but I was hoping to make a little money. How many resources do you think I would need to become established on Tes? What does the average author make per month? I looked at previous discussions on this forum and most people agreed that although it can take a while to get going, once established you can make a reasonable amount of money on Tes, which seems reasonable.

    Also, just one final question: currently I mainly have resources about one subject (Maths), but have resources about other subjects too (particularly English). Is it better to diversify or just stick to one subject?

    Thanks for your help and I would be extremely grateful for any advice you could offer me as I am new to this.
  2. ajs12345

    ajs12345 New commenter

    Congrats on the sales! That's not a bad start at all.

    Yes it's true what you say, getting momentum behind sales can take a while so stick with it! You ask how many resources you need to become established but I would instead focus on maximising the quality of your resources first, as this is bound to boost sales compared to simply adding more resources. Some of the top selling authors only have a handful of resources, but they are all superb quality with many hours invested in them so they sell well and gain their own momentum - so the best advice I can give on this is to make sure your existing resources are the absolute best they can be before adding more.

    Regarding earning, there's simply no 'yardstick' by which to measure. I assume some of the pros are making £100s a week, though for most it is probably more in the region of anywhere between £1-400 per month (although it's worth mentioning that sales site wide have dipped in recent months). If you want to make this a going concern you should set your sights on growth rather than a fixed income target. Start with a target at say £50 per month and once you hit this, work your way up from there as you build and improve your resource base.

    Finally, regarding your resources for other subject areas, why not open another shop? That way you keep your specialisms for each seller account (I always think it's better to be known for a specific subject area rather than being a 'jack of all trades').

    Hope this helps and happy selling!
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  3. jcoulter62

    jcoulter62 New commenter

    Hi ajs12345,

    Thanks for your great advice and help. Yes I agree it is definitely a slow-burner as for getting sales. Hopefully the more high-quality resources I put on, the volume of sales will increase in frequency. As you say, it's definitely quality not quantity.

    Hopefully I can make this a regular earner and I want very much to be successful in it and grow it as much as I can. I think I saw one story online where a tesresources author had made enough money to pay the deposit on his child's home! I might not get that far, but you never know.

    Is it possible to open more than 1 seller account (do I need a different email for each)? Also, is it worth becoming a 'gold' standard author?

    Sorry to bombard you with so many questions but I would really appreciate your help.
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  4. ajs12345

    ajs12345 New commenter

    @jcoulter62 no problem, happy to help.

    Yes you do indeed get a few 'big hitters' who make some serious money selling resources. I do think that to be in that league it has to be pretty much your full time profession but there is definitely money to be made even if you only have a little time to spare...

    As far as I know you can open another seller account, you will need a new username and that's it, you're good to go!

    Gold seller status has the sole advantage of an increased royalty level of 80%, so this means you get to keep more of what you make. There aren't any other advantages really. This is worth it if you have lots of quality resources to sell, but it's a pretty major milestone to reach and can take lots of time to get up to, so just take your time and you'll get there in the end!
  5. Krazikas

    Krazikas Occasional commenter

    I would just be a little cautious about opening more than one seller account just in case TES move to a 'membership' sort of fee/subscription in the future if they do decide to go down that route. See the consultation thread on royalties. If, at a later date, you decided to move your resources to just one store you would lose your view to download / sales - factors that play a part in the search and, of course, any reviews you are lucky enough to get!
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  6. mrajlong

    mrajlong Senior commenter

    I would reiterate my advice in a previous thread: If these were made as part of your day to day job, you do not own the copyright to them, your school does. If you want to sell them, you should get the permission of the head at your school or in the future they could potentially claim that the money you have earned is actually theirs. Good luck :)
  7. ajs12345

    ajs12345 New commenter

    How does this work from a copyright angle? Surely if you have prepared the resources in your own time, they remain your intellectual property, regardless of what you choose to do with them? Just in the same way that the school does not own the copyright to textbooks it might use etc etc. It's like saying that a building company owns your tools because you worked on one of their sites with them...just can't see how this can be true in practice...
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  8. mrajlong

    mrajlong Senior commenter

    I share your sentiments, but I'm afraid it is true. It is a complicated and somewhat grey area (and probably untested in court). There are quite a few threads about this topic. If you have created them in your own time, using your own resources and they are not for use in your current place of employment, then they are yours. The moment you use them in your classroom, the copyright belongs to the school - I think this is disgraceful if they were created outside of your directed time, but that's the way it is. It is unlikely (but not impossible) that your current employers would cause you problems, but who knows how some people might react if they find out you are making money from them?

    I have suggested that Tes draw up a "contract" for authors to download and get management at their school to sign, but I have heard nothing about this being imminent and I would not know how to draw this up myself. Have any other authors got an agreement in place and if so what did it include?
  9. mrajlong

    mrajlong Senior commenter

  10. ajs12345

    ajs12345 New commenter

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  11. jcoulter62

    jcoulter62 New commenter

    Thanks for the advice. Hopefully if I stick with the resources I can be successful with them as I spend a lot of time and hard work producing them. I've made £25 in my first month as an author, do you think that is good or bad?
  12. Krazikas

    Krazikas Occasional commenter

    That's a great start. My biggest fillip was, and still is, when 60p (in the days when resources could be priced at £1!) appeared in my account when I sold my first ever resource ... it just showed me that people would actually buy my resources!
  13. jcoulter62

    jcoulter62 New commenter

    Thanks. If I could be half as successful as you have been, I'd be doing well! Did it take a while to get going for you? Please may I have some tips on how to grow the popularity of my resources?
  14. Littlesherbetlemon

    Littlesherbetlemon Occasional commenter

    @jcoulter62 keep doing what you are doing! It does take time but keep making great quality resources. You could use Pinterest to help 'advertise' your resources. it certainly helps for me.
    Also you could create links between your products so if someone is looking at your Higher Algebra Tests you could mention another product that could interest the buyer e.g your Higher Sequences Tests. You do this when you are writing your description but you can go back an edit those so you could do this asap. Type:
    <a href="https://www.tes.com/teaching-resource/gcse-higher-algebra-test-11823626">Higher Algebra Tests</a>
    This then creates a link to another of your products. The " = > < / a href are very important so make sure you add them or it won't work!
    When someone comes to your shop, you want to keep them there so they see all the brilliant stuff you have!
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  15. Krazikas

    Krazikas Occasional commenter

    I began in Sep 2015. It has taken me a lot of time and effort to get where I am. However, if I were to start all over again I would take much more time and care with my resources. I am still correcting errors and upgrading my older resources from rushing in the early days! Poor quality resources will have a negative impact on an author's reputation and on sales.

    My advice is just to keep your head down and concentrate on producing the best resources you possibly can. Quality resources will get quality reviews, quality reviews will help to get more sales and increase your position in the search. Do not rush or focus on uploading resources as quickly possible. Make some very good quality free resources with links to your paid resources. This will help to increase your visibility on TES.

    My second piece of advice is not to get too ' down' if sales are slow or decline ..... There will be good days and not so good days - take them all in your stride.
  16. mrajlong

    mrajlong Senior commenter

    I struggle with this...I think I might have mentioned it a few times...;)
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  17. Krazikas

    Krazikas Occasional commenter

    ha ha ;)
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  18. konstlarare

    konstlarare New commenter

    I have used TES resources for years! Always with a vague sense of guilt that I never uploaded anything (parasite!). But I finally made the jump this morning, Currently any view is awesome, a download would feel like all my Christmases at once! What is weird is the lack of self belief we all show, my most recent upload was used in an outstanding lesson (or beyond...blah blah as I think its called now) but I still had to hold my breath when I typed the words! OUTSTANDING! I felt like a bragger, not sure if this culture exists in any other job! " sorry, but I am quite good at what I do...I do profoundly apologise...."
  19. LikeAnExpert

    LikeAnExpert New commenter

    Really helpful advice from all the experienced authors here - thank you! I'm still struggling with sporadic sales - I had 5 days with one sale per day followed by a week of nothing! But ploughing on - it's so great to see how the author community are supporting each other :D
  20. TheEducatorsCorner

    TheEducatorsCorner New commenter

    In our opinions you need to make sure to price your resources appropriately to attract people and name them want to buy. TES have reccomendations for pricing which wires fir sine but nit always others. Like ourselves and many others, it is worth pricing your resources and/or planning at a low start to begin with. E.g. A single lesson with resources might be better started at £2. A weeks worth of resources/planning at £3-4. Then after a few sales, you can slowly increase the price by a few pence at a time if you so wish to. (Recommended by other authors).

    A good cover image can help are your resources look more appealing as well. Allowing the customer to prieview a small portion of what their buying is also handy, as they can look at it and judge whether it is what their looking for and can see if it will help them.

    Try to make sure that your title is to the point but contains the right key words so that it can pop up in a search. Your description needs to be good as well, it should be brief, but allow the customer a chance to understand what it is, who it is for, recommendations and a bit if inforation that details the content as well.

    Hope this helps in some way :)
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