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NEU webinar this evening

Discussion in 'Staff, pupil & parent's wellbeing' started by Owleyes00, May 18, 2020.

  1. Owleyes00

    Owleyes00 New commenter

    What were people’s thoughts on the NEU webinar this evening? Do people think the unions are going to affect any change in this going back to school saga or not?
  2. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    what was said at the webinar?
  3. Owleyes00

    Owleyes00 New commenter

    Not a lot new tbh but were clarifying their position. They are meeting with Williamson again tomorrow and have written their own set of guidelines for reopening. The call is remove the arbitrary date and work towards agreeing a way of making it safe and they encouraged everyone to email their MP using their online template
  4. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Why weren't you there?
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  5. Jellybaby72

    Jellybaby72 New commenter

    I’m a bit concerned that NASUWT has split from the group but ultimately if by next week they make a decision that it isn’t safe to go back it comes down to how many staff will choose what the union asks them to do over what their head teacher asks them to do
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  6. Corvuscorax

    Corvuscorax Star commenter

    lots of head teachers have already decided not to open their schools. Lots of parents have already decided not to send children back too

    If its not safe, why would anyone consider going back?

    No head teacher has the power to ask you to do something dangerous. That is against the law. You don't need any strike vote, or anything like that, you just need to quote health and safety legislation. You cannot have your pay docked for refusing to put yourself or children at risk.
  7. install

    install Star commenter

    Be guided by the Union and wait and see what your HT comes up in. No doubt your HT will check with the School Union Reps too before anything goes out.
  8. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    :D:D:D:D:D You'd like to think so wouldn't you?!
    In the better schools they work with the union reps to create the risk assessments and guidance.
    That was mentioned at the webinar, and was a source of regret by the general secretaries as they would have liked one voice from all. However...
    The union isn't currently asking any teacher to do anything except do their utmost to prevent schools reopening. Staff are contractually obliged to follow the direction of their headteacher and unions are not asking staff to refuse to follow school instructions.
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  9. install

    install Star commenter

    Good points and I agree.
  10. caterpillartobutterfly

    caterpillartobutterfly Star commenter

    Can you quote your source for this 'lots' please?

    The only ones who have said so definitely are Eton and Harrow, who aren't opening until September. Possibly so they can continue to furlough support staff and some teaching staff until then. Something they couldn't do over the summer if they reopen this term. Purely financial reasons, nothing to do with child and staff safety. (Yes I am a cynic!)
    Last edited: May 19, 2020
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  11. install

    install Star commenter

    All our local schools are already ‘open’ to the vulnerable and children of key workers. I thought this was the same for many schools.

    However, at some primaries in the neighbouring town they have indicated that ‘not all students’ in: Yr1 or Yr6 can come in on June 1st after all.

    This is due to lack of classroom space once the 2m distancing is taken into account, along with the large numbers of Yr1 and Yr6 students that parents want to go back to school on June 1st.

    They have apologised to people going back to work who may now need to find childcare facilities.
  12. Rott Weiler

    Rott Weiler Star commenter Forum guide

    That advice is of no practical help unless you also explain who gets to decide what's dangerous.

    It's not very likely that any head is going to say "you must come in and do something dangerous".

    What will happen is the head believes that the risks have been assessed and are reasonable (there's no such thing as a totally risk-free life). So if you disagree whose opinion takes precedence?

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