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National lockdown looming....?

Discussion in 'Personal' started by chelsea2, Oct 30, 2020.

  1. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    Boris Johnson is considering the imposition of new national lockdown restrictions from next week amid concerns that hospitals across the country are being overwhelmed.

    The prime minister met Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, Michael Gove, the Cabinet Office minister, and Matt Hancock, the health secretary, to discuss “alarming” new NHS data yesterday.

    He is expected to hold a press conference on Monday to announce the new measures, under which everything could be closed except essential shops and “educational settings”, including nurseries, schools and universities. The new restrictions could be introduced on Wednesday and remain in place until December 1.

    A senior government source said that the measures were under discussion and no final decision had been made.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/national-lockdown-looms-8mphnk5h9
     
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  2. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    That would be really inconvenient.
     
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  3. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Yes, it's being leaked to the press as usual.

    I'm slightly surprised that closing the pubs at 10 didn't do the trick.

    Now we will have to lock down for longer.

    Utterly useless *****
     
  4. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Me too. Last orders at 21:15, I only arrived at 20:30.
     
  5. Norsemaid

    Norsemaid Lead commenter

    I thought you wanted lockdown ? Or have I misinterpreted you? Apologies if I have .

    What annoys me is the scaremongering tactic of the media, it's all speculation that we might , he's considering ,cue people in a panic and others stiffening their resolve not to comply . Okay, so ministers have met and talked . They might have talked about Christmas, what they would like to be doing now in six months time .
    The media have a lot to answer for. They are not the opposition they should be reporting facts, not interpreting, not pushing their own agendas . I'm really cross and don't have the BBC news anymore my blood pressure rockets .
    Doomsberg et al won't be happy until they bring the govt down which is t their job. We should have an aoppositiin party doing that but while they are playing he said , she said , they aren't fit for purpose either.
     
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  6. Corvuscorax20

    Corvuscorax20 Star commenter

    Schools need to close. Simple as.
     
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  7. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    We shiuld see the half term reduction effect on infections soon.
     
  8. ajrowing

    ajrowing Star commenter

    Are you sure it is the media scaremongering?

    I was under the impression that very often senior advisors to politicans briefed what was being discussed in these kinds of meetings off the record so that we the public are soften up for when the actual announcement comes.
     
  9. modelmaker

    modelmaker Star commenter

    What's the betting that the only thing they talked about was how they could deflect the blame away from the idoicy of the eat out to help out scheme.

    The idiocy of getting pubs abnd restaurants to reopen before it was safe to do so is directly linked to the rise in cases of coronavirus.

    The only ones that will get the blame for his are those that ate out. Don't imagine for a second that the waste of skins who ignored scientific advice and told you told you to do it will accept a shred of responsibility for the subsequent chaos and loss of lives.

    I don't know there is an easy and effective way to ask what on earth was going on in your minds when you voted for this government without using expletives. The fact that swear filters mean we're unable to express our contempt for anyone who voted for this chaos, doesn't mean our opinions of you will ever be great. Am I still allowed to say "the dregs of humaity" on this forum?
     
  10. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Certainly saw the September increase.
     
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  11. LondonCanary

    LondonCanary Star commenter

    Nobody told me to eat out. I quite like table service too
     
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  12. modelmaker

    modelmaker Star commenter

    I have to apologise for writing the dregs of humanity. It was a typo. I meant to have typed inhumanity..
     
  13. Oscillatingass

    Oscillatingass Star commenter

    Indeed. I understand the upsurge in the Covid infection rate is being attributed to to educational settings rather than hospitality which is of course why folks in the pub trade cant understand why they have to shut at 10.
     
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  14. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    You see - it was always going to be the fault of teachers!! :)
     
  15. needabreak

    needabreak Star commenter

    Or increase if children were socialising as my students have over half term then go back to mixing it up next week. All schools should be on high alert or forced quarantine/lockdown for two weeks.
     
  16. T0nyGT

    T0nyGT Lead commenter

    Not going to happen anywhere in Europe. Germany, France, Belgium, Wales, Greece have all ruled out closure of schools in all circumstances.

    They keep citing a German study that says that closing schools actually increases cases. The study however was on areas without a lockdown through where teenagers were still able to meet. They won't tell you that though, because you MUST believe schools are safe. They will also tell you that schools have not seen outbreaks, but they won't tell you the reason. They also won't tell you that neither have gyms, playgrounds, cinemas and all the places they're going to close.

    We'll never see outbreaks in schools because children will be largely asymptomatic. They will take it back to parents/grandparents and it will be be linked back to the school. It will be blamed on the hospitality industry or individuals not complying.

    This whole thing is politics. Governments know schools spread the virus, but they also know teachers are bottom of the barrell members of society and parents don't want their children at home in the day. They don't care about you or me or anyone else. They care about power and re-election.

    It's a mass conspiracy - governments are lying to their citizens. Schools are not safe, they never were and never will be without a vaccine but no one cares. Politicians want votes and parents want childcare. And the want both of these things far more than they want Aunt Mavis to have a 5 year extension on her life.
     
  17. moscowbore

    moscowbore Star commenter

    My understanding is that the kiddies will be sent off to school and the parents will be working from home where possible.

    John Swinney, in a landmark statement, is the first politician to publicly acknowledge that students spread the virus. He did it in very guarded language but he said it. Hence Scottish students in sixth form will be wearing masks.

    Schools need to be closed. This is just tinkering.

    bojo will probably shut pubs at 9:30 if they are serving roast boar. That will be the game changer.

    It will take a few weeks to make it obvious to even the public that leaving schools open is the big killer. I foresee bojo bringing forward the school Christmas holidays and having a proper lockdown, no-one leaves their house, over Christmas. He will have no choice. As soon as the hospitals get near capacity, the public will bay.

    When this is all over and the inevitable inquest begins, bojo, wee nicky et al will be shown as the liars they are. They all know that schools drive the infection. They have known it all along. They will face no real consequences as they will all go off to their non-executive directorships and laugh at joe public from the beach.
     
  18. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Do you want me to explain why pubs shutting at ten is a bad idea in terms of virus transmission, and why we need to close them for a period?
     
  19. peakster

    peakster Star commenter

    So....no decision has yet been made

    But all the details have been leaked to the press anyway.

    It's no way to run a country.
     
  20. Scintillant

    Scintillant Star commenter

    Schools will close.

    Attendances will fall among staff and pupils. Cases will rise.

    The risk tradeoff will soon be too much for many.

    It's the height of stupidity to keep them open at present.

    I don't mind doing my bit for vulnerable pupils and keyworkers' children, as in the first lockdown, but the rest is becoming pointlessly risky now.
     

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