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National Audit Office finds half of teaching posts filled with unqualified teachers

Discussion in 'Education news' started by nomad, Sep 12, 2017.

  1. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    A new report by the National Audit Office (NAO) has found that secondary schools teachers are leaving the profession in droves, as pupil numbers continue to swell.

    Schools only filled half of their vacancies with teachers that had the right experience and expertise last year, and in around one in 10 cases, the post was not filled, according to a survey conducted by the NAO.

    Tens of thousands of teachers left England's schools before reaching retirement age last year, and headteachers are finding it difficult to fill jobs with good quality candidates, the report said.

    It concludes that the Department for Education (DfE) cannot show that its attempts to keep teachers in the classroom are having a positive impact and are good value for money.


    Well, blow me down with a feather!! :rolleyes:
    Scintillant likes this.
  2. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    This government and Justine Greening are incompetent.
    needabreak and lanokia like this.
  3. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    It's a crisis that seems to just be sliding by without much notice in the media. The NHS will often get fullblown coverage [and rightly so] but education usually gets overlooked unless a school does something dumb [like saying no shorts triggering the boys protesting in skirts or telling folks when to put their teenagers to bed].

    Not even an Academy Chain getting BMWs for their SLT garnered much attention.
    Scintillant likes this.
  4. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    Life and death worries matter to people. Lots for voters and pensioners get bothered about.

    Children can't vote, so "that's life" mentality kicks in.

    No one, AFAIK, has yet died of a bad English lesson, or not having a qualified teacher in class, or excessively large classes.
    JohnJCazorla likes this.
  5. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    A DH on Radio 4 this morning. Brentwood. Impossibility of getting maths graduates to teach maths.

    So you appoint someone who expresses a passing interest in maths who already has a GCSE. You know the type.

    DH: Would you teach KS3 maths?
    Candidate: But this is an interview for a History teacher!
    DH: Yes, yes. Technically. TECHNICALLY. But...would you teach KS3 maths??? For pity's sake, woman, you got a C in it at GCSE. Why won't you teach maths?
  6. ridleyrumpus

    ridleyrumpus Occasional commenter

    Oooh you cynic :)
  7. chelsea2

    chelsea2 Star commenter

    You are all being ridiculous, and so is the NAO.
    You MUST know the mantra: 'There are more teachers in schools than ever before.'
    Do keep up! :p
  8. nomad

    nomad Star commenter

    I know the scenario. My first job was as a science teacher (with some maths, which was fine).

    Then I was expected to teach music because I happened to have it as a GCSE 'O'-Level pass.
  9. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

    I once taught Latin for a year...

    I know no Latin. :oops:
  10. grumpydogwoman

    grumpydogwoman Star commenter

    What has this forum been full of recently?

    I have been given a 2nd subject to teach. I LITERALLY know nothing about it.

    @nomad had an 'O' level! He was properly qualified with an 'O' LEVEL. Who'd have any reservations about claiming to be a subject-specialist with an 'O' level? I really ought to be Head of History, Head of Music, Head of Maths and Head of Biology. But I just don't have the time with my French, German, Latin, Greek and English. I'm such a lightweight.
    galerider123 and nomad like this.
  11. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    Why stop there? You should be HT, surely!
    grumpydogwoman likes this.
  12. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

  13. phlogiston

    phlogiston Star commenter

  14. MonMothma

    MonMothma Lead commenter

    Crisis. What crisis....
    galerider123 and slingshotsally like this.
  15. applecrumblebumble

    applecrumblebumble Lead commenter

    The education select committee and now the national audit office saying that the DFE cannot do their job and recruit and retain teachers. They should have been on capability 4 years ago, they are making the same excuses which are sounding a bit lame at the moment. We as a country have one of the highest funding in the OECD countries but the lowest wages. You have to question where the money is going if it's not salaries.
    Maybe that's why the NAO is asking the question 'is the DFE value for money?'
    Short answer no.
  16. galerider123

    galerider123 Lead commenter

  17. Jolly_Roger1

    Jolly_Roger1 Star commenter

    Yet there are many of us with decades of experience whom schools will not touch.
    slingshotsally likes this.
  18. slingshotsally

    slingshotsally Star commenter

    It's almost as though an experienced and knowledgeable professional might lay bare their inadequacies.
    lizziescat likes this.
  19. FrankWolley

    FrankWolley Star commenter

    Compare & contrast with this story from 2005 - would today's students know to do what Tilly Smith did?


    Tilly Smith, from Oxshott, Surrey, was holidaying with her parents and seven-year-old sister on Maikhao beach in Phuket, Thailand, when the tide rushed out.

    As the other tourists watched in amazement, the water began to bubble and the boats on the horizon started to violently bob up and down.

    Tilly, who had studied tsunamis in a geography class two weeks earlier, quickly realised they were in danger.

    She told her mother they had to get off the beach immediately and warned that it could be a tsunami.

    She explained she had just completed a school project on the huge waves and said they were seeing the warning signs that a tsunami was minutes away.

    Her parents alerted the other holidaymakers and staff at their hotel, which was quickly evacuated. The wave crashed a few minutes later, but no one on the beach was killed or seriously injured.

    In an interview with the Sun, Tilly gave the credit to her geography teacher, Andrew Kearney, at Oxshott's Danes Hill Prep School.

    She said "Last term Mr Kearney taught us about earthquakes and how they can cause tsunamis.

    "I was on the beach and the water started to go funny. There were bubbles and the tide went out all of a sudden.

    "I recognised what was happening and had a feeling there was going to be a tsunami. I told mummy."
  20. lanokia

    lanokia Star commenter

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